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yiv. Lknxoa^. Would tlio <j,'e)itleiTian yield, for tlie record? 



Mr. I)owxix(J. I yield. 



Mr. Lennox. I want to differentiate between space and atmosphere 

 for the record. The atmosphere in terms of a layman is below what we 

 call onter space, is it not ? 



Dr. Stratton. Yes. 



]Mr. Perry. Yes. 



Mr. DoAvx-^ix'o. There is such an interaction there that von felt com- 

 pelled to add the extra "A'' ? 



Dr. Strattox\ Yes, to emphasize that point. 



Mr. Perry. It is almost a continuous system, sir. 



Mr. Mosher. Would the gentleman from Virginia yield ? 



Mr. Downing. I yield. 



Mr. ^Iosiier. Commenting on the chairman-s reference to space, I 

 think we all recognize what he is driving at and it is certainly true 

 there is a difference. However, you don't want to push that differentia- 

 tion too far because, as the gentleman from Minnesota knows better 

 than anyone else, the earth orbiting satellites with which we are con- 

 cerned over in the s]:)ace sciences subcommittee are going to be of tre- 

 mendous usefulness as a tool to oceanography, to say nothing of the 

 weather people. 



Mr. DowNix'G. That was the point I was about to bring out, too, that 

 we are doing things in the space committee that have a direct relation- 

 ship with oceanography and the earth resources satellites are going to 

 be tremendously helpful and conceivably we would incorporate those 

 in the oceanographic effort. I can see a little conflict there. 



]Mr. Lex'^nox'. I will have to be a referee or arbitrator here because 

 we have four of the most distinguished members of the space com- 

 mittee who are prominent members of this committee. For that reason, 

 I know that j'ou gentlemen will take care of your situation, I am sure 

 you will. 



Mr. Dowx'ix'G. We have the chairman of that subcommittee. 



Mr. Lex-^x-^ox'. Joe Karth. 



Mr. Karth. Would the gentleman yield? 



Mr. Lex'x'ox'. Yes. 



Mr. Karth. As far as I am concerned, I see absolutely no conflict 

 between what you have recommended, Dr. Stratton, in your statement 

 drawn from a very courageous report written, I think, by very cou- 

 rageous members. Our earth resources satellite program, dovetails 

 with the program that jon people recommend. Wherever it does dove- 

 tail there should be no argument betw^een the two committees of the 

 Congress. I think it would be substantially beneath us if we did argue. 



And I would just like to say, Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman would 

 yield further, that in all my years in the Congress I do not think I have 

 ever benefitted by a stronger, more positive, to the point and objective 

 statement than by the statement you made today, Dr. Stratton. A state- 

 ment I consider to be completely devoid of pollution or dilution or 

 contamination from outside sources, special interest and influence, and 

 I only hope that the Administration, the agencies of Government in- 

 volved and the Congress are equal to your work. 



Dr. Stratton. I am most grateful, sir. 



Mr. Lex^x^ox'. I thank the gentleman for his eloquent statement for 

 the record. 



