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(The data provided by Dr. Wenk at the request of Dr. Kirkbride 

 follows:) 



MARINE SCIENCES BUDGETS IN RELATION TO TOTAL FEDERAL R. & D. BUDGETS 

 [In millions of dollars] 



1967 1968 1969 



Total Federal (Including marine): 



Basic applied research 



Development 



R. & D. facilities 



Total R. & D - --- - 



Federal marine programs: 



R. & D 



Operations 



Facilities. ..- 



Total marine - -.- 



Percentof total Federal... 2.6 2.6 2.8 



'Mr. MosHEE. That well may be, and I did not want to quibble over 

 these figures. I think it is something that our staff might investigate 

 for purposes of our own understanding in the committee. 



I suggest, 'Mr. Chairman, that we should clarify some of those dollar 

 figures and their significance, but, to repeat, I agree that if any criti- 

 cism is valid of the report it is that it is too modest. 



I am not prepared to argue which of the recommendations is most 

 important, first, second, or third. 



Dr. Kirkbride. I told you I was biased. 



Mr. MosHER. I think all of these recommendations are very impor- 

 tant including the recommendation for a National Advisory Commit- 

 tee for the Oceans, which you place as top priority. 



Whether it is top priority or not, it is a very important priority. 



Mr. Lennon. In that connection, Mr. Mosher, on page 9}5'2 of the 

 Commission's report we find this language : 



In particular, it should be noted that the estimates for Department of Defense 

 programs have been provided only for selected activities which relate intimately 

 to civil functions. 



Without objection, I am going to ask unanimous consent that that 

 entire paragraph of the Commission's report be inserted in the record 

 in connection with your colloquy with the witness because it is relevant. 



(The paragraph referred to follows :) 



In particular, it should he noted that the estimates for Department of Defense 

 programs have been provided only for selected activities which relate intimately 

 to civil functions. The Commission has assumed that Defense support for marine 

 ^ienee and technology will continue to expand in response to military needs and 

 has not attempted to project the costs which may (be incurred in carrying forward 

 their marine-related military programs. Funds for such other special-purpose 

 activities as the shellfish sanitation program of the Public Health Service and 

 the Atomic Energy Commission's studies of the use of nuclear technology for 

 harbor excavations have also been excluded from the estimates. 



Mr. Lennon. Now, the gentleman from California ? 

 Mr. Hanna. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



I want to compliment the gentleman particularly on stressing this 

 point about a national program. I think that was a very significant 



