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Doctor, I note that you state that the committee on Ocean Engineer- 

 ing of which you are chairman is a part, of course, of the National 

 Academy of Engineering and that there are some 60 members of the 

 National Academy of Engineering Committee on Ocean Engineering 

 and back in 1966 at the request of the Federal Government, NAECOE, 

 meaning you as chairman and the other 50 or 60 members of your group, 

 were organized. 



Just for the record, how was that done? From whom did that re- 

 quest come at the Federal level for the National Academy of Engineer- 

 ing to organize a Committee on Ocean Engineering? 



Dr. Kavanagh, The National Academy of Engineering is a sister 

 organization to the famous National Academy of Sciences. It was 

 established in December of 1964 as a professionally autonomous acad- 

 emy under the same charter which created the National Academy of 

 Sciences in 1863. In 1965 the Navy, Interior, Commerce, and National 

 Science Foundation forwarded requests to the President of the Na- 

 tional Academy of Engineering for continuing advice in ocean engi- 

 neering. These requests were sent with the concurrence of the Inter- 

 agency Committee on Oceanography, which represented basically all 

 of the agencies of the Government interested in the oceans. 



Mr. Lennon. You say, "Since 1966, our Committee and Panels with 

 60 members have been active as an engineering advisor to the Depart- 

 ments of Army * * *." 



Is that in the field of the Corps of Engineers or is that general ? 



Dr. Kavanagh. In the Army it has been primarily with the Corps 

 of Engineers ; yes. We have had many interim projects with them. 



Mr. Lennon. That is on a consulting fee basis ? 



Dr. Kavanagh. No, sir. The members of the Academy committees 

 and panels receive no consulting fees. The Government provides funds 

 for travel, per diem, and professional and clerical support. 



Mr. Lennon". These are not compensated for. These are contribu- 

 tions to the Federal Government through the National Academy of 

 Engineering ? 



Dr. Kavanagh. That is right. 



Mr. Lennon. In relation to the Department of Commerce, you have 

 also been engineering adviser to them as the Committee on Ocean Engi- 

 neering. In what agencies of the Department of Commerce has your 

 engineering advisory group on ocean engineering been related to the 

 Department of Commerce? 



Dr. Kavanagh. We have been adviser to ESS A, among others. 



Mr. Lennon. I am trying to build a record here. 



Dr. Kavanagh. I can tell you just offhand some of the problems. For 

 example, most recently we have a joint steering committee with the 

 National Academy of "Sciences' Committee on Oceanography and the 

 National Academy of Engineering Committee on Ocean Engineering. 

 This joint steering committee has studied in great detail the proposal 

 for an "International Decade of Ocean Exploration." 



Our report is prepared and it shortly will be released, within the 

 next couple of weeks. 



Mr. Lennon. The Environmental Science Services Administration 

 or ESS A, which is in the Department of Commerce, have you been 

 adviser to that group ? They are interested in oceanography in many 

 aspects. 



