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In late January I got a letter with a questionnaire attached which 

 was supposed to have been seent to about a thousand individuals en- 

 gaged in, or interested in, oceanographic work, and the letter reads : 



The first problem encountered by the oceanic pioneer, although not a matter of 

 life and death, is critical in that no matter how qualified or motivated he is, he 

 cannot move his family into the ocean unless he first purchases a suitable home. 

 Because of the nature of the environment in which they function oceanic homes 

 are necessarily more expensive than a comparable land home. 



Then the questionnaire goes on : 



Why do you want to live on or in the ocean? Where in the ocean do you want 

 to live and why ? Do you expect to be employed on the mainland ; if so doing what? 

 If so, how would you expect to be employed in the oceanic community? How much 

 do you expect to pay for an oceanic home? What particular features do you 

 want your home to have? Would you prefer a relatively stationary or mobile 

 oceanic home? When do you think you would be ready to move to the ocean : Now, 

 1 year, 2 years? 



Et cetera. 



Have we gotten that far yet? This seems to be sort of a — I don't 

 know whether you would call it a real estate proposal or not. I haven't 

 heard any testimony that indicates that we have gotten quite that far 

 despite Tektite and the Sealab program. 



Dr. Kavanagh. I think these are the Sunday supplement ocean- 

 ographers, sir. 



Mr. Drewry. Thank you, Dr. Kavanagh. 



Mr. Lennon. Thank you. Doctor. 



I am very happy that you have graciously furnished us with the 

 names of the members of your Committee on Ocean Engineering and 

 also the members of the Panels, because I think, with your permission, 

 sir, we would like to reserve the right to perhaps, as we move on in 

 these hearings, extend an invitation to some of them to come and tes- 

 tify in their particular field of interest and expertise. 



Dr. Kavanagh. Yes. Many of them have already expressed this de- 

 sire, sir, and stand ready to come. 



Mr. Lennon. We would be very grateful if that could be done. We 

 do appreciate it very much. 



I wonder if we could go off the record. 



(Discussion off the record.) 



Mr, Lennon. Dr. Kavanagh, Mr. Paul Rogers, of Florida, has 

 certain questions. 



Mr. Rogers. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Dr. Kavanagh, I apologize for being late. I was in another commit- 

 tee where we were writing a bill so that I had to be there. 



I have read your testimony. I am not sure I understand. You say we 

 do need reorganization, but I am not sure whether you agree with the 

 Commission's recommendations or not. I apologize for not hearing you 

 perhaps comment earlier. Do you agree with the Commission's recom- 

 mendation that we need to reorganize the governmental effort ? 



Dr. Kavanagh. Yes. I did indicate that we felt reorganization was 

 very definitely necessary. We feel, ourselves, strongly that way. The 

 only thing that I could not say is that we specifically endorse the spe- 

 cific recommendation made by the Marine Commission on a NOAA as 

 it is spelled out. We have not simply discussed this in this detail. 



We felt that we were here in an advisory capacity, in a technical ad- 

 visory capacity. We have tried to point out alternatives which must be 



