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Dr. Fye. May I comment on that, Mr. Chairman ? 



Mr. Downing. Yes, indeed. 



Dr. Fye. I certainly agree with you, sir, and I have often wondered 

 how our small organization, and we are a small oi-ganization at Woods 

 Hole, can help. 



I think probably the place we can help most is in trying to assist in 

 the education of people so that this narrow mentality that you de- 

 scribe won't be self-limiting. I think it is very important, and I would 

 like to offer our assistance in this very important phase. Without tliis 

 kind of education, I think it is quite impossible to expect to take this 

 forward step. 



Mr. Hanna. I appreciate the gentleman's recognizing that educa- 

 tional requirement because I think it is one of the paramount require- 

 ments of this whole operation. 



Mr. Downing. Mr. Keith. 



Mr. Keith. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



I am sorry. Dr. Fye, that I couldn't be here this morning. This is my 

 third subcommittee meeting, and I am sure that similar busy schedules 

 account for the absence of so many of my colleagues. We really have 

 very good attendance here this morning, considering the pressure of 

 business. 



I would like to comment on the dialog which has just taken place 

 here and ask, if I might, are we not talking about mental attitude 

 versus mentality ? 



Mr. Hanna. We are talking about mental attitude. I think that is 

 clear from what we said. 



Mr. Keith. You mentioned with reference to the nuclear power- 

 plant on the Continental Shelf that we have solved the problems on 

 land. How about those on shore, where water is used either for a cool- 

 ing process or to disperse an effluent ? Have we solved those with ref- 

 erence to nuclear p owe rpl ants on the shoreline ? 



Dr. Fye. Certainly not in all locations, Mr. Congressman, Each lo- 

 cation is a different problem, as you know from your own district where 

 there is one now under construction. 



I was very interested in a recent visit to Maine where Governor 

 Curtis had called a number of people to advise in this regard to find 

 that they were looking toward the possibility of using the heat out- 

 put of a powerplant as a benefit. With the very cold water along that 

 part of the coast they wanted to heat up a whole lagoon and see what 

 they could do with warmer water species. 



I think this represents a proper attitude toward the whole pollution 

 problem. Whenever we can make the inevitable waste products of 

 civilization a benefit to us we should do so. j\Iany times we can, if we 

 are ingenious. 



I do believe that if nuclear plants are properly located along the 

 shore or even under the water of the Continental Shelf, that we can 

 minimize any disadvantages and in many cases make it a benefit to the 

 local community. . 



Mr. ]MosiiER. Will the gentleman yield ? 



Mr. Keith. I yield. 



Mr. Mosher. I "had a conversation recently with some British scien- 

 tists in which they reported to me their positive efforts in using the 

 heat from these power sources to the advantage of aquaculture, to the 

 creating of a very useful climate in the water. 



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