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Dr. Caliioltn. I think it would he most ai)i)ropriate for the C^oast 

 'Guard activity to he a part of a focus a<rency to devekjp ocean science 

 •and technology. Tliere are parts of the administrative structure in any 

 technoloo;ical development which don't move so much to the develop- 

 ment of the technology itself as it does to protecting the public. I 

 think we have some good examples of this in the health field where we 

 divorce the regulatory and safety regulations from the mission of those 

 who are developing the technology. 



In the atomic energy field we handle it a little differently, but again 

 there are regulatory agencies that are protecting the public and are 

 looking after the safety of people which is different from the develop- 

 ment of the technology. 



These things are joined always in any technological development, 

 iDut I think it is a matter of governmental administration to recognize 

 that there are safety problems and human involvement problems that 

 are separate and distinct from the development of the technology. 

 Just because both happen to be concerned with the same environment 

 doesn't necessarily mean that administratively you put them together. 

 It depends on the checks and balances that are needed. 



Mr. Lennon. What about the Environmental Science Services Ad- 

 ministration which the Commission recommended be put in this new 

 agency ? 



Dr. Calhoux. It seems to me that one question that has to be asked 

 is whether the mission of an existing agency is broader than ocean 

 science and technology and specifically with ESS A this is a question 

 that I would have to ask myself. 



It seems to me that the mission of ESSA goes beyond ocean science 

 and technology. If one is structuring a new agency that has a mission 

 in ocean science and technology, then you have to ask what do you do 

 ivith an agency whose missions are broader than ocean science and 

 technology. Do you put it in or leave it out ? That is the kind of question 

 you have to ask. 



Mr. Lenxon. You have contractual relations with ESSA, Coast 

 Guard, and many others. You would be working with these Govern- 

 ment agencies in the field of sciences. Who would be in a better posi- 

 tion to make an administrative determination as to which could be 

 brought together? 



We work with them only in the legislative aspect. You work with 

 them down in the issue in which they are involved. Where should we 

 go to get definitive advice and information with respect to what 

 agencies should be brought together that have roles and missions so 

 oriented to marine technology, oceanography, oceanology, and marine 

 sciences otlier than people like you? 



Dr. Calhoun. Again, our contact with these agencies is from a pro- 

 gram point of view. 



Mr. Lennox". I understand that, but you get to know them and know 

 what their programs are and why. 



Dr. Calhoun. Well, in answer to your question, sir, I think that 

 this is again a reason why in my own personal judgment I come liack 

 to the point that it is so important to designate to some executive a 

 responsibility for resources and environments and let that adminis- 

 trator organize internally to take care of these overlaps. There isn't 

 any way that one can organize any activity to get around overlaps. 

 There are always going to be some. 



