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To the same extent that it is impossible to start a cattle industr^^ in 

 India, for example, because people don't eat cows, you have a similar 

 trouble with fisheries. People don't particularly like fish because they 

 have never had fish before. 



Mr. RuTPE. I have no further questions, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Lennon". Thank you. Counsel ? 



Mr. Drewry. Mr. Beckmann the Anton Bruvn was one of a number 

 of ships participating in the international Indian Ocean expedition; 

 was it not ? 



Mr. Beckmann. My recollection is that there were about 40 or 50 

 ships altogether. 



Mr. Drewry. And a large number of nations were involved in it on 

 a cooperative basis. 



Mr. Beckmann. Yes, I think about 14 nations altogether. 



Mr. Drewry. And the studies were multidisciplinary, were they not ? 



Mr. Beckmann. Yes. 



Mr. Drewry. Not just looking at fish, but trying to find out a lot of 

 things. 



Mr. Beckmann. The mission was to study the Indian Ocean from 

 as many disciplines and aspects as was possible. 



Mr. Dre^vry. Thank you. 



Mr. Lennon. Mr. Rogers. 



Mr. Rogers. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Beckmann, I read your 

 statement and I think it points up something I am concerned with and 

 I think the committee probably is too, and that is the lack of a proper 

 utilization of the industrial capability. 



I think you have made this point very forcefully in your statement. 

 It seems to me that we have put such stress on the academic in research, 

 feeling that all research has to go through an academic institution that 

 we have bypassed the usage of private industry in a cooperative effort, 

 and I think and hope that this will be corrected in our approaches and 

 I would think this committee would be interested in seeing what it can 

 do to encourage greater use of our industrial capability in research so 

 that we do have the joint effort of the Government and industry and 

 the academic community all working together. 



T think your point is well made and I agree with it. 



Thank you. 



Mr. Beckmann. Thank you. 



Mr. Lennon. Thank you, Mr. Rogers. 



Mr. Beckmann, you called our attention to the fact that your com- 

 pany was awarded this contract to provide some in excess of 2 million 

 pounds of MFC or what is really fish protein concentrate, FPC. 



How much of that 2 million pounds, since this contract was entered 

 into, have you delivered to the AID ? 



Mr. Beckmann. On the order of, I believe, less than 2 tons. "We have 

 only delivered as requested by AID for use in some of their market 

 studies. We have not begun delivery of the bulk order. 



Mr. Lennon. But you have a contract for 2 million pounds. 



Mr. Beckmann. Yes. 



Mr. Lennon. And that contract was entered into when ? 



Mr. Beckmann. Well, I know delivery is due this month and we had 

 a 9-month delivery schedule. Nine month's ago. 



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