350 



Mr. Beckmann. Look at it another way. There are various ways 

 of storing fish, fresh on ice for 2 weeks, or you can freeze them and 

 hold them 6 months or a year, FPC is a means of storing fish with a 

 shelf life of, S2ij, 5 years. It is in a powder form which is white and has 

 a little bit of odor, not objectionable. 



The question comes up : What does one do with it ? The only thing 

 we know to do with it, is to make an additive, to add to a soft drink, 

 for example, or add to flour to make the dough, or into macaroni 

 (which is essentially flour) . 



Mr. ScHADEBERG. The reason I asked it is that I know from some of 

 the farm organizations and from some of the agricultural industries 

 that there has been a tremendous amount of opposition to it because 

 there is a fear that it will replace the agricultural product, rightly or 

 wrongly. 



I might also add, Mr. Chairman, that I don't know what the source 

 is, but I read about 2 or 3 years ago that India was to get some of this 

 through AID and they refused to accept it because it wasn't on our 

 own shelves. I don't know how true that was. Has any of this been 

 delivered that you know of to India ? 



Mr. Beckmann. No. To the best of my knowledge, none has ever 

 been made. 



Mr. Schadeberg. Mr. Chairman, I have one other question if I may 

 ask it. In a previous hearing we had testimony from Mr. Boggs of the 

 Ocean Harvesters, Inc., and Mr. Levin from the Viobin Corp. Are 

 these in your organization ? 



Mr. Beckmann. Viobin is the corporation which developed the 

 process which we use to make the 'FPC. 



Mr. Schadeberg. But they don't manufacture it ? 



Mr. Beckmann. They do not manufacture it. 



Mr. Schadeberg. How about the Ocean Harvesters ? 



Mr. Beckmann. That is a new one on me. I never heard of it. 



Mr. Hanna. Mr. Chairman, would you yield further? 



Mr. Schadeberg. I am finished. 



Mr. Hanna. I appreciate this because I, with the Chairman, have 

 entertained a long-term interest in this problem and before I came on 

 the committee was one of the members of Congress personally jousting 

 with the people downtown about this whole problem. 



I take it that there are several problems associated with this busi- 

 ness, one of them being economic. If it costs 42 cents a pound on the 

 basis of a 2-million-j)ound delivery it would appear to me that there 

 are some market problems in adding this concentrate to just any prod- 

 uct. It would be more acceptable to put it in a product that is so cheap 

 that it could easily absorb in the process the small amount of protein 

 concentrate in the larger amount of something like flour that is put 

 , in tortillas, is that not correct, and macaroni, for instance, which is 

 a very cheap product which could spread out the higher price of the 

 concentrate to the lower price of the basic commodity ? 



Has that got something to do with it ? 



Mr. Beckmann. Yes. There are two points. One is at the present 

 time the 42 cents is a guessed price. We don't know what it really does 

 cost to make. 



