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a year a surplus naval vessel which is used for offices and research work 

 and it is very helpful at very little cost however I can't conceive of 

 using a nuclear submarine. 



In view of the technicians required and the problems involved in 

 operating such a submarine, it seems to me that those who are trying 

 to develop scientific knowledge would be overwhelmed by the techni- 

 cal aspects of running the vessel. 



I think you have made a very fine statement and I appreciate it very 

 much. 



Dr. Hargis. Thank you. I am sure if I might comment here that the 

 members of the subcommittee are aware that the oceanographic com- 

 munity is facing rather difficult times now in terms of operating ships. 

 One reason, of course, is the high personnel requirements that some 

 ships have particularly conversions and the increasing cost of labor. 



So we are faced with some problems along the lines of operating 

 major facilities. 



Mr. EoGERS. Mr. Hanna ? 



Mr. Hanna. No questions. 



Mr. KoGERS. Mr. Ruppe? 



Mr. EuppE. I have no questions, but I would like to thank you for 

 a very fine statement. 



Dr. Hargis. Thank you. 



Mr, Rogers. Counsel ? 



Mr. Drewry. Dr. Hargis, you are the first witness we have had so 

 far who has brought in the State aspect of the thing as to the Com- 

 mission report and the overall program. I think it would be useful 

 if you could implement what you have already given us by submitting 

 a list of those who make up the Council and any other materials you 

 might have relating to it. 



It is not going to be easy particularly because of the number of in- 

 dividuals and entities and communities and theories involved but that 

 also is one of the most important aspects of the total picture and I 

 think the more information we can have on it the better our record 

 will be. 



Dr. Hargis. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Drewry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



(The information follows :) 



A Resoution Adopted by the (Florida) Conference 



The Steering Committee suggests the following goals, objectives and courses of 

 action are related to the establishment of a more effective and suitable role for 

 the maritime states, commonwealths and territories in interstate and national 

 marine affairs. 



The committee recognizes : 



(1) The responsibilities of the Federal Government in relation to efforts 

 involving the total national maritime interest : 



(2) The responsibilities of individual maritime states, commonwealths and 

 territories to develop, regulate and manage the resources of their coastal zones^ 

 and their role as bases of operations for offshore activities. 



(3) The necessity for coordination of state and federal activities vrithin their 

 respective responsibilities, because of the contiguity and interaction of respective 

 state-federal responsibility. 



(4) The necessity for multi-state participation in the resolution of problems 

 common to the maritime states, commonwealths and territories : 



