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Mr. Rogers. The use of submersibles, you see, will be limited. We 

 have had some 1,600 to 2,000 requests for use of submersibles that 

 would have been funded or partially funded out of this money. That 

 is reduced. 



Now, has your organization had a chance to look into that and reg- 

 ister some protest to this approach? 



Dr. Hargis. No, sir ; we have not. Congressman Rogers. 



Mr. Rogers. Do you think you could review the situation and let us 

 know your feelings as an organization? 



Dr. Hargis. I think that we might. I can contact some of the other 

 members of the Council, the executive committee, and see what might 

 happen. As you know, Mr. La Cerda and Mr. Dover and a few of the 

 members of the Florida Commission on Marine Science and Tech- 

 nology have been involved in our program and so I would suspect 

 that we would get some input from them. 



Mr. Rogers. I would hope that you would give some expression to 

 this because I think that, unless the oceanographic community makes 

 itself heard, then the administration will not be as impressed with 

 what we need in certain areas and I would hope your organization 

 could respond. 



(The information will be supplied at a later date.) 



Mr. Rogers. I notice, too, that, of course, you stress the coastal zone. 



Dr. Hargis. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Rogers. And the coastal laboratories. I presume you feel that 

 this is a responsibility of the States ? 



Dr. Hargis. Yes. I definitely do. 



Mr. Rogers. Except for perhaps some funding from the Federal 

 Government ? 



Dr. Hargis. Funding and some urging and support and perhaps 

 even establishing of some models to go by, but I have been convinced 

 for a long time that the States themselves should have greater involve- 

 ment in both support of research and in development of effective 

 management capabilities. 



Mr. Rogers. Would it be possible for you to furnish to the committee 

 the State budgets for the development of oceanography from your 

 member organization ? 



Dr. Hargis. I had thought about the possibility of getting such a 

 listing together and I will see if I can't do something over the next 

 month or so. 



Mr. Rogers. If that is possible I think it would be helpful to the 

 committee to know what the States are currently spending and what 

 they project for their next fiscal year. 



Thank you very much. Your testimony has been most helpful and 

 the committee is always pleased to receive your remarks. 



Dr. Hargis. Thank you, sir. 



(The information will be submitted to the subcommittee as soon as 

 it is compiled.) 



Mr. Rogers. Our next witness is Dr. Bruce Halstead, Director of the 

 International Biotoxicological Center, World Life Research Institute, 

 Colton, Calif. Dr. Halstead, we are pleased to receive your testimony 

 at this time. 



