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obtained on tlie coast of Newfoundland, for the last three years — and carrying on the 

 Bank fishery — and says at page 12 : " If a vussel alongside of you has frcsii bait, you are 

 not going to catch your share of fisii witii salt bait." And at page 18 :— 



" Q. You consider salt bait supoiior to fresh bait, I believe ? — A. Oh, no, I think frosh bait ia 

 the beat. 



" Q. Yiiii ill) uUiuit, thuii, thut I'rush liuit is thu buat ? — A. Uh, certainly, whuu other vussula on tlut 

 Dank Imvu it. 



" y. Wiiun cDillisli suo fresli halt they prefer it to salt bait ? — A. Yes. 



" Q. Con.suqueiitly you aiirnit that il, is of some lulviintiigu to you to be able to go to the coast of 

 Ncwfouudlauil, iiml gut hesli bait ?— A. t)li, yes, certainly it is." 



Mr. Francis M. Freeman also says at page 80 : — 



" Q. Im salt bait just as >;ooil as frosh 1 — A. Fresh bait is the 1)0.st. 



"Q. \» il nut more ),'enerally usoiH — A. When 3-ou can gel it. 



" Q. If you tan it in niui:h bettor than suit ? — A. Yea. 



" Q. rmctically, the aalt bait cannot compote with the fresh bait ? — A. No, il is not as goo<i 

 as frash. 



" i). Don't the vessels that run over hero from tlio Uuiteil States and got buit at Nova Scotia uao 

 freah buit altojjeiher ? — A. \'es, tlm Ca|H! Ann vessels do. 



"Q. Don't thi-y fnini Cilimuester as well ? — A. The (Jloucester vessels use fresh bait altogethev. 



"Q. Then you eim.siiliT salt bait preferable ? — A. No, I never said sn. 



"(}. The friisli bait ynu consider i)referablu ? — A. Certainly. 



" y. But surely you don't mean to say that fresh buit is belter than aalt bait ' — A. Yes. 



" t^). 1 >o you mean to say that you can eateh more (ish with fresh buit ? — A. Always. 



" Q. You can eatr.h them faster ?— A. Yes. 



" Q. You are cerluiu of il ? — A. Yes." 



Mr. Lewis, at page 90, says, in answer to the query : — 



" Q. It has lieen stated liofore us that trawls reiiuiro fresh bait. Has that been your cxperionoo ? — 

 A. It is hotter to have fresh bait. 



" Q. Wiinesse.s liavi? toM us that with trawls tlie bait lies on the bottom, and if it is not fresh the 

 tish will not take it ? — A. They will not take it as well a.s flesh bait, but they will take it if they 

 cannot get anything else, and if they cannot got fresh bait." 



Mr. Omc(at page 131, United States' evidence), makes the following statement : — 



" Q. You left f;iouccst<'r ith salt bait ? — A. No, 1 took enmi!,'h fresh horrinf; to bait my trawls 

 onco ; this was ii 1S7U. If I remember right, I went to the Grand Uunk fur halibut. I did not gut a 

 trip until after I had goiu! in for fresh bait." 



joent ot 



Having thus referred to the opinions of some of tlie witnesses examined on behalf 

 of the United Statis, and tltercare otliers who testify to the same cflTect, I will now call 

 your attention to the evidence of those called on belialf of Her Majesty's (lovernniont. 



Mr. John Sta])leton (pa^e 229, Britisli evidence), stated tliat "there is only a 

 certain season on the CJrand Bank tliat tlie sciuid is tliere. Wlien it is there tliey get it 

 there, but when they cannot they come insliorc and get it. Tliey eitiier buy herriiiu; or 

 mackerel, or they catcli sipiid. Whatever tliey can get by catching or buying, they put 

 in ice and then go back." And in answer to tlie (jiiery, " Why cannot tliey prosecute 

 the Bank fishery without this?" he answered, "Well, the fish won't bite without 

 something." 



" Q. Cannot they bring these from their own C"iiuti-y? — A. Yes, that is all very true. It may 

 be that the liwl trij), when they went I'mm iionie. they had liail. IJut that will la.il Un- nidy one or 

 two baitings. And if they cimiiot get bait on the Bank then they have to haul up anclior uud go! 

 inshore. 



" Q. AVell, it is necessary for them, then, to buy bait from you ? — A. Well, the salt bail will not 

 catch the lisli while tlicie is nther bait there. 



" Q. For trawling it u absolutely neces.sary to have fresh fish? — A. Yes, if it was not necessary, 

 they would not come." 



Mr. William McDonald, at page 311, ibid., says : — 



" Frosh bait is absolutely necessary to take .'Ddlish. I'ank fishing could not be successfully 

 carried on without it ; Ameriwvn captiiius say they nave to get fresh bait or they ci'.n catcli no tish. 

 "Q. How did you catch the cod ? — A. We caught them with trawls. 

 "Q. What kind of bait did you use ? — A. Frcsli bait — herring. 

 " Q. Cannot you catch cod equally well with aalt bait 1 — A. No. 

 "Q. How do you know ? — A. I have tried it. 



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