3.'5a 



Tlicn thtrc mv two I'aiiks (i|i|i(iviic the shore di' (laspi' :iiul l'.:;y rliu'.i'iu-. T!it;i.' 1^ n liank called F'niut 

 St. I'otci's Hank, wiiirh ]■-■ vcit small, JO iiiili-- (nit. It i'; :■ very .iiiiiill l)»nk, M ur 4 inili.'S in extent. 

 Tliuii llitiic i.s Hank .Mi.st'iui, or (.)i)iliaii, a bank lyiii;,' oil' the coasl of .Mi-J-oii : al.'o oil' the coa^t ol' 

 Gu8pi! or litiy Chalcar, uclistaiKtu olalniut L'O miles — lo or liH inilfs. 



" Q. Xuw, takiiiLT iiitii a<('')uiit ihc^e hanks, <'oul(l ymi -ta'.c hnv. f.ir iVniu ;he .sliofc, or, liUliel', 

 could yon .stale wljat iriMpditina (ilthe wlmle ((iiaiilily of cm I taken i.-i i auyht uitliin ihe.se u niile.s ( — A. 

 Takin.i; in'onocmint that only ouv jienjilo tiial are sealeil in M, .Iclm's Jiiver, anil a iikice called J-ong 

 ['oint. visit this Miiieaii or St. .folni Hank, also llial hut few fislicrni(>n from Xatashqunir j;" rin the 

 hank, th:it is of our own lisheTmen. and takiiii; into account that our tisjiennen generally ;^o on the bank 

 only in two or thioe ]ilaces, 1 sliould tliiid< that more than three-f(Mirths— I should fay 80 percent, 

 or 11}) to So per cent, ofthe cocUish t.Tken by ('nnadian tisherinen are tiikeii iu^iile of Iiritish waters." 



As to bait for tht- lialibut fishiTy, Mr. Fortin .said — 



" (}. What i.s the liail u.sed Wn- lialibut f —A. Herrinf; anil codlisli. ( 'i Itish is as jiood as any. It is 

 tinri.jr than herrin;,,', ,ind holds well uii the lincik. They put a hiru;e bait on so that the small codfish 

 cannot take the bait. bccauRe the object of the halibut lisher-i U to take nutliiii'..' 'mi halib.iii. AVlien lliey 

 take codtish they ha\'e te threw it overboaril. 



" ti|. And a.« codlish a.s well as heniiiL'. :ire taken iiisher'', Uiey lia\r tn (■"iih: inshore ' — A. Ves, they 

 come in close to the shore for halibu*. " 



And, with respect to codlisli, Mr. Fortin continues-— 



" Q. Well, what bait is used for codlish '. — A. 'I'ln' bait they use are cayilin. Inunce, herrinp, 

 mackerel, smelt, squid, clam, trout, ami chub, 



" Q. Where do they .ueuerally keep ( — .V. Near the slioi-e. The eajilin and lanuce lish are en the 

 .shore rolling on the beach sometimes, and our ti.shermen catch man\' of th"se with liip-iieis without 

 using seines. Herring are e.iugiit also near the shore with luts. 



" (}. Well, can till' eiKllishery be carried nn ad\'anta,L;eiiusly otherwise lii.Tii with frrsh i'uit ; — .\. 

 No, no. Salt bait is use, I sometimes, when im other can be had, Init it cannot be iHpd jirotitid/ly, 



" Q. is there any means of kee]iing IVesh bait for some lime? — .\. Well, some nf our huge 

 establisliinents which have ice-houses have tried to keep the hail, they use in ;i iresh state c- long as 

 liiey coidd, but they ha\e noi sucei-cded well. They may from half a day In :; day in warm weather 

 periiaps. 



•■ (,i. With ice ? — A. Yes, beeuuse \\\v herring, fur instanec, uu\y be lit |o ctii. ! ut net fir lja;i. 



" ij. Why ? — A. Because the bait they use must be fresh enmigh tostick im the hnok. If it is noi 

 very fresh it <loes not stick on, and it \\ ill net eati'li the cedlisb. bi'^ause the en'lfish will take the ban 

 off the hook, ami leave the hook. 



"t^i. Ymi say it can only be kept half a day or a day ' — .\. It may lie kept T'Crhaps a day or two. 

 It depends upon the weather. 



" Q. Well, would it be po.ssdili^ for the Americans coneie,' il ere te iish fur cd hi bring their bail 

 with them in a frozen state ?^A. No, it is impossible. 



" Q. They could only bring salt bait, which is not much used ? — ■.\. That is all." 



Mr. John Short. M.P. for friispe. examined by Mr. Da vies, .^ave evidence as 

 follows : — 



" Q. Can you uiVf the Cummis.-ion an I'Stiinate of the ipiantity (jf Iish taken by nur tishermen 

 iinnuallv along the en:tst ' — A. Krem !\Ioiint Cape Chatte t'l New iiichmoiid the catch wiaild be about 

 UHl.tlOii ([uintal.s. 



" t,V Where is w\\ lliehmninl '— .V. (hi I!ay Chaleiirs. There is Anticosti and the mu-lli shore of 

 the St. Lawrence, Item .luli iciitli-wi'stward. which will give liili.iliiii ([uintals. making t.'gether 

 1200,0110 (piintals. 



" Q. The north slioiv of the Si. Lawrence and Ami(>osli w ill Liive llHl.lHio c|uiiit.als ' — A. Yes, with 

 the Magdalen Island-. 



" Q. What kind ef Iish is tak.n ' — .\. Coillish cliieliy ; herring is liie ne\l catch in i|uanlity and 

 importance. 



" (,). You don't Iish mackeivl to any extent ?~-.V. Xn. 



" {}. You don't ge into it for the pur]iose cf trade i — A. No : we find the codhsh nnae remunerative. 



"i). What is the value of those L'OO.IMK) (piintals of Iish ? — A. The (.'ost value is about o dollars 

 per quintal, which would give a value of l.lHlO.oOO dollars. The market value is higher: it ranges 

 from 5 dollars to vS dollars per ([uintal. 



" l,>. How far are tiiose Iish taken from shore liy the tishermen. take the north shore ?- .\. Prin- 

 cipally and nearly altogether inshore. 



''<.). Now take the anutli shore ; — A. Kroin Cape Chatte to Cape (iaspe they are all taken inshore, 

 and from Cajie (Jaspe to New liichtnond the greater portimi is taken inshore, scuue are taken on hanks. 



•• Q, Where do tlie American cod-lishermen get their bait ' — A. They get a great ipiantity from 

 the inshore lisheiy. 



" <.). Have you seen them catch bait ?— A. I have seen them .set nets, but not take them uji. 



"Q. Have you any doubt that they do catch bait ^— /V. I have not. They often draw seines to 

 siiore for eapliu and small bait. 



" Q. Could the Americans carry on the deep-sea cod-lisiicry without thai bait f — A, Not with 

 success. 



"Q. You are quite sure about that? — A. Yes; I have no hesitation in saying it could not he 

 carried on." 



[280] 2 Y 2 



