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the lar^n array of rcspootahlo witnesses wlio testified to the great wealth of the fishery 

 in the biMiil of Prince Kdward Isianrl, and the constant use of those grounds by United 

 States' ^l•(•^s. Hiit, if Mr. Foster shonld ever aj;ain liavc occasion closely to examine the 

 vvlioie evidence given in this case on bolh sides, he will find that, beyond tlic efforts to 

 depreciate tliat tract of water between tiie Nortli Cape and the Kasl Point, and that at 

 Grand Manan, there is scarcely a line of testimony offered by him or his learned asso- 

 ciates to sliake or contradict the evidence given respecting all tiie otiicr vast and rich 

 Canadian fishing grounds. Tlie evidence of tlie value to, and use by, American fisher- 

 men of all the coasts of Nova Scotia from the Hay of Fundy eastward, all round the 

 Island of Cape ]]reton, the north sliores of liie coasts and bays of New Brunswick to 

 Gaspe, and tiie entire coasts of Quebec, witliin tlie jurisdiction of the Commission, is 

 almost, if not absolutely, uncontradicted. 



Tliis applies as well to tlie affidavits as to the oral testimony, and it may be stated 

 here of the British afHdavits, what cannot be said of those of the United States, that they 

 arc striltingly corroborated by the testimony of witnesses bolh on the direct as well as 

 the cros.s-examination. 



I here produce a number of extracts and references, which are more than sufficient 

 to convince even our learned friends on the other side that they have taken only a very 

 partial view of this case; and I call Mr. Foster's especial attention to these witnesses. 

 At the risii of being considered tedious, I cite this evidence, because the statement of my 

 learned friend was emphatic, and he threw out a special challenge in asserting that there 

 was but littl • evidence of fishing by Americans, except at the two places mentioned by 

 him. 



Tiie pages refer to tlie British cvidenc(! : — 



Page 79. Mr. George Harbour, a resident of Sandy Beach, Gaspe, was called as a 

 witness, and gave evidence of the Americans fisiiing for mackerel in tliat locality. He 

 says, "They came in right to the sliore, close to the rocks. Upon an average they take 

 .500 barrels in a season {two trips). He has never seen them fishing for maclterel outside 

 three miles." 



Page 8.3. Mr. William S. Sinnett, a resident of Griffin's Cove, Gaspe, called as a 

 witness, says, " that ho has seen American skippers fish two miles from the shore, and 

 inside of a mile for mackerel ; and that he has never seen them fishing outside of tliree 

 m''es." This witness speaks entirely witli reference to his own locality. 



Page 87. Mr. George Grenier, of Newport, Gaspe, gave evidence that he " has seen 

 American vessels fishing for mackerel 25 yards from the Point." 



Page . Hon. Tliomas Savage, of Cape Cove, Gaspe, says, in his evidence, that 

 " the fishing grounds extend from Cap'i Gaspe to Cape Chatte. As soon as the mackerel 

 come in, the American fislicrmen take ihat fish, and the Gaspe fisliermen cannot get 

 bait." 



Page 276. Mr. James Joseph testifies tliat he has seen the Americans fishing 

 from Cape Chatte to Gaspe, riglil along llie shore, all within one or two miles from the 

 shore. 



Page 280. Mr. Josi-pli Couteau, of Cape Despair, Gaspe, called as a witness, 

 says that " the Americans fish along the coast of Gaspe, from one to three miles off 

 shore." 



'J'licse witnesses are confirmed and supported by— 



Wm. McLcod, of Port Daniel, Gaspe. 



Philip Vibert, of Perce, Gaspe. 



James Baker, Cape Cope, Gaspe. 



Wm. Flynn, Perce, Gaspe. 



Abraham Lebrun, Perce, Gaspe. 



Louis Roy, Perce, Gaspe. 



Page 180. Mr. James McKay, Depntv Inspector of Fish, Port Mulgrave, after 

 giving evidence of fishing close insliore off Cape Breton, in 1862, says: " In 1872, fished 

 in American schooner 'Colonel Cook,' and caught 400 barrels on second trip — tliree- 

 fourtlis caught inshore. Caught 800 barrels of mackerel in two trips in 1 872. In 1 873 

 caught 360 barrels in two trips. The greatest portion of the fish were taken about 

 Cape Low, Cape Breton, ' close inshore.' " 



Page 226. Mr. John Stapleton, of Port Hawkesbury, Cape Breton, says in his 

 evidence that he has fished in American vessels in Bay Chaleur, on the west coast of 

 New Brunswick, to Escuminac and Point Miscou, from Point Miscou to Shippegan, and 

 thence to Paspebiac and Port Daniel, down to Gaspe, round Bonaventure Island as far 

 as Cape Rogers. 



Page 243. Mr. James Lord, of Deer Island, New Brunswick, gives evidence that the 

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