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200, Matthew Monroe, Guysboro', Nova Scotia. 

 200. Isaac W. Rcnnells, Cape BiTton, Nova Scotia. 



206. Josluui Smitli, C 'p(> Breton, Nova Scotia. 



207. Martin Wcntzel, Lunenbnrg, Nova Scotia. 



20!). Alexander McDonald, Cape Urcton, Nova Scotia. 



216. Amos H. Oathouse, Digby, Nova Scotia. 



226. Robert S. Ealcins, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, 



227. .John A. McLeod, Kensington, Prince Edward Island. 

 230. mgus B. McDonald, Souris, Prince Edward Island. 

 233. John McTntvre, Fairfield, Prince Edward Island. 

 237. Thomas Walsli, Souris, Prince Kdward Island. 



239. Daniel Mclnlyre, Prince Edward Island. 



217. John Merchant, Northumberland, New Brimswick. 



United States' fishermen 

 1 beg here to introduce 



From end to end, the British evidence shows that the 

 carr)' on their operations within the Briiish territorial waters. 



a few instances from tlie evidence of the United States' witnesses who were produced to 

 prove that the mackerel fishery was carried on in what is called by the United States' 

 counsel " the open sea." 



Timothy A. Danies, of Wellfleet, Massachusetts, fisherman, called on behalf of the 

 Government of the United States, sworn and examined. 



By Mr. Foster .— 



" Q. How old are you ? — A. Seventy years. 



" Q. Were you cngaf^ud in mackerel fishing during a good many years ? — A, Yes. 

 " Q. How many years did you come to the Gulf to lish mackerel ? — A. Seventeen years. 

 " Q. What year did you begin and wliat year end ? — A. From 1846 to 1873, 1 believe, inoluaive; 

 one ye.ir out. 



" Q. Were you in the same schr ;r all the time ? — A. Yea. 

 " Q. Wluit was the name of the >v,gsel ? — A. ' Pioneer' 

 " Q. What tonnage ? — A. Sixty-two tons. 

 " Q. New or old meaHurement ? — A. Old measurement. 

 " Q. Were you captain all these years ? — A. Yes. 



" Q. Where did you do your principal fishing in those places, more than three miles from the shore 



or less ? — A. More than three miles. 



" Q. Tf you were a young man and fisherman once more, and wanted to come to the Gulf to oatch 

 mackerel, would you be prevented from doing it by the fact that you were forbidden to fish within three 

 miles of the shore ? — A. I think so." 



By Mr. Weatherbe ; — 



" Q. If you were forbidden to come within three miles of the shore, would you come at all ? — ^A. 

 It would be under certain circumstances. If there were no fish with us and plenty Uicre, perhaps I might. 

 T cannot say as to that. 



" Q. From your experience, if you had been restricted, during all the years you come to the bay, 

 from coming to within three miles of the shore, you would not have cflme ? — A. I think not." 



Stephen J. Martin, master mariner and fi.shernian, of Gloucester, was called on 

 behalf of the Government of United States. Here are some extracts from pages 212 and 

 215 of thT American evidence. 



By Mr. Dana :— 



"Q. lint you did not fish within the three-mile limit? — A. No. 



" Q. (^au yoii not tiiid out from reports of vessels and from your own observation where the fish 

 ate? — A. Yes. 



" Q. You keep your ears and eyes open all the time you are fishing ? — A. Yes. 



" Q. It is not necessary, actually, to go in and try if you find vessels leaving a place without 

 catching anything, to discover that this is the case ? — A. No. 



" Q. And you have to judge as to the presence of fish, a good deal from the reports of others ? — A 

 Yes. A great many men have a choice as to fishing grounds ; this is the case everywhere, whether in 

 cod, halibut, or mackerel fishing. Some fish one way and soma another 



" Q. From your experience in the bay — a pretty long one — do you attach much importance to the 

 right of fi.shing within three miles of tlie shore? — A. Well, no, F do not think it is of any importance. 

 It never was so to me." 



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By Mr. H'eatherbe — 



" Q. You never fished so close to the shore as that » — A. 

 miles of Bird Rocks 



.Sometimes we did. We fished within 



