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Mr. Foster. — I understand that this paper will be put in, that we will Imve an 

 opportunity of examining it, nnd of replying to it, if justice is done. 



Mr. Thomson. — We will have no mistake about that niattcr. I am quoting from a 

 paper what the result of Major Low's evidence is. 



ifr. Fostpr. — Here is a table of statistics presented, and held in the hand, and we are 

 told with what care and by what skilAd liands it has been prepared, and yet they do not 

 propose to jjive even tl)c details from wliicb the result is made up. 



Mr. Thoiiiiinn. — 1 will liand over flic figures, and you can look at them. 



Mr. Foster. — 1 sny we are entitled to have it to examine, and we arc entitled to reply 

 to it. If the learned counsel is allowed to read anytliing |)ri'parcd by Mr, Miall, whom he 

 has had at work all summer, and did not see lit to call as a witness, we ccilainly are 

 entitled to examine it and reply to it. 



Mr. ThouLion. — If you will look at pajze *4()2 A of the AmciMcan evidence, you will find 

 the table. You will find by that, which contains Major Low's figmes. that, from 18,')8 to 

 1H7C, Mr. .Steele's ve;«els made an average of 393 dollars jut month during the time they 

 were cod-fisliing. 'riint is what the statement shows ; whether it is true or false, I neither 

 know nor care. Tliese figures also show that, in American waters, the earnings jicr month, 

 per vessel, while niaekcril-fisliiiig, were only 'V2i't dollars, while in the hay mackerel-fishery, 

 the vessels iiiiuk' per month, (luring the sunnner season, an average of 442 dollars. That 

 table was put in tor the purpose of showing the comparative values of the several fisheries 

 ^the cod-fishery by itself, the mackerel-fishery on the American shore, and the r.ackereU 

 fishery in the bay — and the result is just what I state. 



^■|V Alr.rinuli-r Gait. — The statement, I thiidv, nmst be made us part of your 

 argument. 



Mr. Thomnon. — There is no intention to oiler the statement as evidence; it is 

 argument; but I think it would be very mifair it' I did not point out where the result 

 stated was to be found. Surely it is easy to see what the result is. 



Mr. Fonl.'r. — We do not object to your assertion as to that being the result. 



Sir Aleiander (Salt. — it is now, I judge, the business of the Connnission to say 

 whether the evidence hears out the statement. The time has passed for receiving evidence. 



Mr. Vosler. — 1 assent to that, with a certain ((ualilication. That is the ultimate 

 business of the Commissioners ; but when, at the end of the last argument, a statement 

 of that sort is brought forward, o( which no i)rcvious notice has been given, although 

 ample notice might have been given, then common justice and the rules that apply before 

 all tribunals that 1 ever heard of, give to the parties who have not the last word the 

 right of making an explanation. It is just what we gave notice would happen, if, afier 

 all our arguments wvw made, the other side were allowed to reply, and sometimes in 

 derision, and sometimes sportively, the phra.se that tell from me that I believed masked 

 batteries would l)e opened, has been repeated during the investigation. It is just what I 

 meant by tl.j phrase; it is brinijiug out at the end something that recpiires explanation, 

 and then tryiig to cut olf the o|)pt)rtunity of givin-. that expbuution. I never 

 knew that attem|)t to succeed in a court ol' justice, and I do not mean that it shall 

 succeed licri' till we have done our utnu)st to prevent it. So, then, the learned comisel 

 puts in these statements at this time; we will liave overniglit to examine them, and if we 

 recpiiie an opportunity to make an explanation, \\c exi)eet to he beard apon it to-morrow. 



Mr. Tlioiin'nn. — I can only say that not one figure has been reierred to by lue on this 



point that is not to be found in Mi\j(n' Low's slateiuent, put in a long time ago. Hut he 



absolutely ailmilted it himsell, in >-o nuuiy words, in his cross-examination. I call attention 



o his evidence on i)ivse .38!!, given on ')th October, luore than a month ago. At the 



bottom of that pagr, you will find his cross-examination by Mr. Davies, as follows : — 



" t,l nividiiii,' llu' iiuiiilici- lit ilif M'ssfls iiUn the K aull.i, wluil « ill it I'mvc you (- \. ilj.'l ilniliirs. 



"(,), .vii ih'il till- (iiYM'i/i' <(/'i7' /i>r iii'intli i;/ l/h (Ci^/s i,iifH<ii/iil ill, tlif Aiiitricoii .■.iwri /i.shti\i//rom 

 18.")^ 'i- •)"', I'ini'UiiI'd ill nihil- In lili.'J ili 'liii:<, ir/iH, tlir nirrinji; enlrli /nr moiilh of flu ri:i.ie/< i mjagtd 

 ji) Ihr (,'iii/ii/ .SI. /..(/'V. /(I I- //</«■»■// nulilii/ '.I'.I.S Julliiis! — A. ViS. 



'■(,' Ami tlic ii\riiiui' v;iliii' 111' till' i;il( li nl' tln' vi'ssfls fii),'a;,'i'il ill lilt' LTulf lisliiiij,' I'lir Iho iiiiiie 

 |if'iiiii| nrtiiiii' was '."'.in dniliiis '-.\. Vcs," 



Now, how can my learned friend say tli;it we are springing any new matter n|)on 

 them? Here is their own testimony, niven by the man of statistics froiu (ilouce&te;, 

 the gn lit man who c.nne here literally shielded by Sti'i'le. It is the most extr.ijrdinrry 

 thiiiL' I ever heard in my lite. 



N(.w, 1 want to t'ollnw this matter up a litlle. These stati.slies were put in for the 

 pn^po^e of proving two result^, \iz., tliiU the miiekcrel catch on the United States' shores 

 was a lirst-rate one, and the eateh in the hay Wiis a very bad one; but it happens that 



