41 f) 



no iinafjiiinry matter, but ahsoluiily mado up froui llio books, a numlicr t)f (juestions are 

 put by Mr. Davies: — 



" Q. How ilid you j;et tlicsii lliiitt'cn or Iburlpcii trips ^— A. I -^iiw tin' trip tmoks. I asked Mr. 

 Steele for pcrinis.sic.n to slinw llicni to the ( 'oiniiiis<iioii. 



"(.,». Vnu tlion hull tliu opjinrluiiity of I'xamiiiiiif; the l)ooks '~.\. Vcs, us id liis trip Imoks, but 

 not as to liis Icdu'iT. 



"(). I>icl vuii iisk fipr liis IciluiM- ;--.\. I diil not. 



• (>i. fsiippiisf ir von liiid iloiii! M) you would liavi! olilaiiird iiccos.s to it r — .\. J'roliaUy I .sliould. 



"(,•. 'riicTi't'orc you do uoi i<iiiiw wlmt his ijouk.s uliuw ii.s to iiitiia! piiplit mid loss sustidiiud I'V him 

 during this pfiiud !-' .\. I do not. 



'l,'. And tho lulual slutu nf fa.is ni.iy lu' jt viiriaiia; with the tlicurv von advani'i' ! — A. I liardlv 

 think .so. 



"(,1. Sup)iii.>iiii; that (;ooii.'o Strclc .stands in the position vou assunn' in this stalfUKMit, lie wonld 

 111' liiiidatipt, bi'yond .dl redemption .' — A. Yes. 



"t,». Vou have provi'd him IVom th.-ory to he liankru]it Keyoinl all rpd(^m[ilion. whoa in iaet he is 

 a capitiili.st worth 4r),iiiiii ihdlar-i, whieli i .\iuliits the diU'erence helwcen ihi' lu'iiclicd sialemont and the 

 theory (—A. Yes, hut he had eii))it:il « hen he went, into the hubine-s. 



'•^>. Dii you .state that he hruM,'ht it !. ,viih him '—A. Ou'-haif of it was mad" in the sail- 

 milking' liusiness. 



"(,•. Wheie wa.s the othei h d!' made ' - .\. In the lishiie^ Imsiness, diivimr iiim-'."en veais, luit 

 that is only l.ooo dullars a year, and he ou;jlit to make thai. 



"<.>. The aitual liLW on inch Vc-sel, for 1il7 vessi^li, yoii plaee at HIT dollars ' — .V. Vcs. 



"1,1. AVill you nial-.H thai up ami tell me let- how much he euu'hl to lie a defaulter '—A. Mis hiss 

 \V(mld he IT.^io'.l dollars. 



•'li>. AiKJ that, is not eonsislent with the faet.s— he is noL a delaullitr to thai amount '— .\. He lui.-; 

 nmde it up in other p.iris of his hu-ini.ss ; but as far as his vfs.s^js aiv eoiieenied, h.' has probaldy hi.st 

 tliiil 8um. 



"<^. You ,lid not .^Tt aeees^ lo his pfojii and loss h^ljier ' -.\. No. 



'•(,». Th.il would show e\aetly how ii is, ainl ihi."! is an iiiiai;iuarv eonelusioM ' — A. Yes, I eonldliot 

 tnnke it up witho\il Ihe actual hills f,; expenses lor his \e.s.sels I lliouuhl il was already understood 

 that this was ima^'iiiary." 



Now, tliis i.< tlic tcstiiiuiny lliat is L'ivdi to >fr. Dan.ir.s ri'(|'.K'ii lliaf tlu.> statiini'sil 

 sliould be perfectly true. 



\\'i'ilii''!'(liiii, yoreiiilifr '21, lh7'. 

 Tlic Cotitereiue iiict. 



Mr. Tluimgon continued liiis closini; arcTMincnt is sui)poit (d'tlie case ol Her Uritaunic 

 Mnjehty. 



Your Kxccliciii'v and your lioiioiir.s: — When we adjoinned yesterday i was ret'crrinjr. 

 1 tliink, to a statenu iit |)r{idii(c.l by the .\iiiericaii witness, l^ow, tin- tii;ures ol' whicb were 

 prepared to siiow tiic re.speeli\e \aliK's cd the tislieries on the .Anieriean .slioiv an<i in tiie 



bowever, on cross-. xaininatiiui that the earnings of llu- vessels enj;ai;,ed in coiltisliini!; 

 averaged eaeb '.VX'> dollars per niontb alter payinir otitlu' crews and litiuidatini; the "stock 

 cliurires " : the vessels luacken I iishiiii,' on the .Ainciicaii slioic made ."J'Jt) dollars per 

 month ; while tir >e inachinl ;isiiiim in Hay St. Lawn iice averaged ••■•icli -M'J dollars per 

 monlb. ^lle^e ligiiivs as deieriiiiniiiir tli • relative \aliies of tlii'se lisliin:,' grounds, to 

 wbieii I will liereal'ter call yom atleiition, iirc 1 coiiceivi'. coiicliisivc. While Ijov was on 

 the stand be put in statements froni the books of ( Jeorge Steele and ."-Sinclair and l.iO\v. 

 Tlie statement of ."^teidi', which is to he found on jiagi' -W'l of .Vnnrican evidence, shows 

 when the tij'ures are exainiiu'il that the hay catch from l><"iS to I "^T'i was M.'5,(i4.') barrels 

 of the viihic of 1(1.'?, .^.'('J dollars. It sieiws liiat the (Mt<'li c.vti'iidinu; over the same period 

 of time on tlie American shuie was but .">..'<!).') barrels f ihe value ol 4.'t,IOI dollars. 

 Tlie average price of the bay catch per barrel wa.s I'J dollars, and ol the shore catch 

 7 «h)ls j'.t c. Now that, your I bnmurs uill ite. is important, Icr it comes trom Major I,ow, 

 who came here for the purpose m |irii\ing directly the opposite. He came here lo sustain 

 tlie extraordinary view that was preseiili d in Ihe .\merican .\nswer and by A"mrican 

 witnesses, namely, that the li-h caught on the .Vmerican shore were more valuable than 

 the fish cauglit in Hay St. Lawrence. Unfortunately the figures by which it was attempted 

 to prove that, proved diredly the reverse. Vour Honours have only to take up the 

 American Evidence at page I0'_', and take the stutement (.\.) to tind the result. The 

 Bttttemeiit of Sinclair and liow, which is found at puKcu 3^0 uud ii8l, shows tliat in the 

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