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raised at all; I think it would be doing 

 a gross injustice to bee-keepers to at- 

 tempt anything of that kind. Some of 

 the prettiest honey I have ever seen 

 was in 4%x4% sections, and some 

 beautiful honey in larger sections I 

 have seen. 



Mr. Diebold — My experience has 

 been with the 4% and the Danzenbaker 

 section; also 3%x5, known as the 

 Ideal; also with the 4%x4%. I find the 

 4% hard to clean the propolis — it takes 

 longer time. The others I find tip over 

 very easily on the table where they 

 are sitting; but I would prefer the 

 plain jsections, 4%, and the 3%x5. 



Mr. Siebold — Almost all of our deal- 

 ers, when you send for sections, send 

 the standard section, which I believe 

 is 4%x4%, open on two sides. If you 

 don't name what you want, they will 

 send you that kind, which is consid- 

 ered by almost all of them, I Relieve, 

 as the standard section. 



Mr. York — While we are on this pre- 

 mium list, I may say it has been sug- 

 gested to me that the premium for 

 handling bees at the fair be omitted 

 hereafter, and that amount of money 

 distributed on something else. At the 

 last fair there was only one of the 

 exhibitors prepared to handle bees, and 

 the weather was such that it was not 

 considered best to have them handled 

 at all while I was present. I believe 

 he got the premium for bringing those 

 bees there, just the same. There was 

 no education al30ut it at all for any- 

 body. It has been suggested that that 

 money be put on some other exhibit, 

 and not for handling bees in a cage. 



A member — ^What premium did he 

 get? 



Mr. York — $15.00' was the amount of- 

 fered. But there was no competition 

 at all. 



Mr. Coppin — ^Where did you get your 

 information that the bees were not 

 handled? 



Mr. York — ^Well, they were not han- 

 dled when I was there; the weather 

 was not good enough. 



Mr. Coppin — They were handled 

 every day. 



Mr. York — They were not handled 

 while the judge was there, and there 

 was only one exhibit. 



Mr. Coppin — There has not been but 

 one exhibit, and Mr. Werner has been 

 the man doing that; I brought a colony 

 of bees for another purpose, and as 



he was not there, I had made my en- 

 try thinking he might not come. 



Mr. York — I am not criticising the 

 exhibit; I did not know until now that 

 they were handled there at all during 

 the fair; they were not handled when 

 I was there, so no award could be 

 given; it w:as received, I suppose. It 

 seems to me that handling bees at 

 fairs does not amount to much any 

 way; there are only a few people 

 around the cage compared to the 50,- 



000 people there; probably only 25 or 

 30! ever see such exhibits. It is a 

 good deal like extracting honey on the 

 ground; I dont think it amounts to 

 much. I doubt if five people saw the 

 extracting done; $2.00 is the premium, 



1 think, for that. It is nothing to me, 

 of course. 



Mr. Coppin — When the judge is 

 there, the judge decides who should 

 get the premium, and the bees have 

 to be manipulated every day in the 

 week outside of the day the judge 

 makes his decision. I think these ex- 

 hibits are of much interest. When I 

 was there the people were crowded 

 around the cage every day. 



Mr. Be<5ker — ^I move you that this 

 exhibiting of bees in cages and man- 

 ipulating bees in cages be left to 

 the Executive Committee; they have 

 to do the work anyhow; when they 

 meet again they can decide what to 

 do. 



Motion seconded. 



Mr. Bohrer — Before the question is 

 put, I want to say that I have seen a 

 good deal of this handling bees in 

 cages by men who are not honest. If 

 they would tell the people WHY it is 

 they handle the bees that way it 

 would be educational but they do not, 

 oftentimes. A man who was in a cage 

 manipulating bees, at Topeka, Kan- 

 sas, put a lot of bees in his bosom, and 

 he spread himself out and said: "I 

 will give $10.00 to any one that will 

 do this." He wanted to make the peo- 

 ple believe that no one but he could 

 do this; that he had sort of hypno- 

 tized those bees, and that noibody but 

 he couldi handle them in this wa5% and 

 he was nothing but a humbug — there 

 was nothing educational about that; 

 especially, on a Fair ground, where 

 you want to disseminate knowledge, 

 and give a lecture on the habits of the 

 bee and its management. - Don't try 

 to fool the people into believing you 



