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wires around them and then cross-tie 

 them. 



Mr. Moore — Mr. Hutchinson uses 

 hoop-iron around them. 



Mr. Hatch — ^I put the wire clear 

 around and tighten it up, putting in 

 two pieces of wire on each side and 

 drawing them up tight, and never had 

 any loss that I know of. " 



Mr. Dadant — "We have used boxes 

 strapped a great deal that way. It 

 gx)es right around each head of the 

 box and holds all the wood together, 

 and we ship to any distance with the 

 box strapped around, where it would 

 tear the box all to pieces without vt. 



Mr. Burnett — Do you use hoop-iron? 



Mr. Dadant — Yes, only a little light- 

 er. 



Mr. Burnett — The hoop-iron answers, 

 although it is qi^ite a nuisance about 

 opening them, and so on. Some com- 

 plain a litle of that. 



Mr. Wheeler — When those cans start 

 on the road, they scrape the bottoms 

 of the wagons and tear" people's hands. 



Mr. Burnett — That is especially so 

 with wiring. Wiring is worse than 

 the hoop-iron. There are quite a 

 number of objections to it. 



Mr. Hatch^I don't think you get my 

 idea, Mr. Burnett. Tour idea is to put 

 it around the end and nail it fast? • 



Mr. Burnett — Yes. 



Mr, Hatch — No; it is not nailed at 

 all. 



Mr, Burnett — Your hoop is not in- 

 serted into the wood. It is outside of 

 the wood, a thirty-second part of an 

 inch above the wood. 



Mr, Hatch — Get baling wire, such as 

 they use for baling hay. 



Mr. Burnett — That is about a thirty- 

 second part of an inch above the wood, 

 the best you can make of it. 



Mr. Hatch — It is generally about 2 

 inches from the end. I don't see how 

 it could bother at all. 



Mr. Burnett — It bothers about trans- 

 portation to other cases; it tears other 

 cases, and it tears any vehicle that it 

 , goes into, and it is annoying on the 

 v/arehouse floors, tears them up. It 

 is really a serious objection. I think 

 that out to be done where you ship 

 beeswax, which is a commodity that 

 breaks up a package. That ought to 

 be hooped, or in a strong package, es- 

 pecially where it comes a long dis- 

 tance. But on honey, I think there will 

 . be a strong protest raised against wir- 



ing or hooping the package before lon^. 



Mr. Hatch — ^We had to do it because 

 the packages were so frail that they 

 would not stand. 



Mr. Wheeler — We ought to insist on 

 a better package, packages such as we 

 had 30 years ago. - " 



Mr. Burnett — We used to have no 

 trouble when the case was sufficiently 

 stout to contain the 125 or 130 pounds 

 of cans and honey. The first thing they 

 did about it was to dispense with the 

 center board. That weakened the case 

 one-half. Most of the California cases 

 today have center boards — we very sel- 

 dom have any trouble with them. I 

 think, with the center board, you would 

 need no wiring of the cases. 



Mr. Hatch — The California cases are 

 made of inch or % lumber, ajid when 

 you cut that down to % and use a 6- 

 penny nail or anything that will hold, 

 you cannot do it. 



Mr. Burnett — I do believe it is to the 

 advantage of every producer, every 

 handler of the goods, to have a center 

 board case. The cans rub together; the 

 moving of the car seems to rub, and 

 scrapes the tin off each package, and 

 I have often known it to work through. 

 Each can wears the other out in trans- 

 poitation, especially where the. tin i§ 

 light, and with the center board that 

 is obviated, and a case is certainly 

 three times as strong with a center 

 board as it is without. Then, if one 

 end of the case gets injured, the other 

 is not damaged, as a rule, at least not 

 so much. The other part remains in- 

 tact generally. 



Extracted vs. Comb Honey. 



"Will extracted honey supersede 

 comb honey in time, or is extracted 

 honey in the market beginning to dis- 

 place comb honey?" 



Mr. Wilcox — I think the dealers could 

 answer that question better than the 

 bee-keepers. 



Pres. York — What do you think of it, 

 Mr. Burnett; is the handling' of ex- 

 tracted honey increasing? 



Mr. Burnett — Yes; it ia. Extracted 

 honey in the last 10 years has gained 

 on the sale of comb honey very largely, 

 and I think that the fact that we have 

 now for the last two or three years 

 hardly seen a can of unripe honey on 

 the market — that is, it has not come to 

 me, and I have seen some other deal- 

 ers — has had a great deal to do with 



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