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ILLINOIS STATE BEE-KEJEPEORS' ASSOCIATION. 



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anything out of them. I would like to 

 hear from Mr. Burnett as to how to 

 handle this matter of honey being 

 tampered w^ith. 



Mr. Arnd — I want to caution people 

 who get honey to have their own 

 driver handle it. I have had lots of 

 honey from a certain party, and in one 

 case all of the honey was out of the 

 one can, and in the other lot there was 

 a leakage. You want to be careful to 

 have your own man handle the honey; 

 if not, the man who is handling it — 

 unless he ha,ndles it all — does not know 

 that there is a shortage and he receipts 

 in full. A man did some hauling for 

 me, and he had to pay for one can 

 of honey because he let the railroad 

 men put the cans on; they are foxy; 

 they put on the light weight ones, and 

 get a receipt in full, and that relieves 

 the railroad company, and the team- 

 ster has to stand it. 



Mr. Ahlers — I believe if a person 

 goes at it in the right way, the rail- 

 road company will pay every claim 

 where you can prove a loss. I have a 

 claim right now for $81.42, and I would 

 not discount that 1 per cent; they will 

 pay it; I may have to wait a month 

 or so. I had one shipment that was 

 stolen, going to Cleveland, Ohio. I 

 had lost part of the papers and the 

 railroad company could not be held. 

 I wrote to the agent and told him that 

 certain papers were missing; I got a 

 claim for $1.13 just the day before I 

 left home. The railroad paid me the 

 money and it didn't belong to me; I 

 sent it to the party who lost the pail. 

 I charged the railroad company just 

 exactly what I had charged the man 

 for the honey; added the percentage; 

 figured it close; added the freight and 

 the percentage of tare on that one 

 pail, what it amounted to — $1.13 in all, 

 on a 10 lb. pail, and they paid in full. 

 I have several other claims, and they 

 will all be paid. 



Mr. Arnd' — But you didn't give them 

 a receipt in full when you received 

 the goods? 



Mr. Ahlers — There is the point; in- 

 struct your driver, every time, to look 

 at this honey and see if it corresponds 

 with your bill of lading or shipping 

 receipt, and if it doesn't, take your 

 receipt marked "short" or "leakage." 



Mr. Arnd — That is all right; the 

 railroad picked up this package, one 

 can entirely gone; the can was there. 



but no honey; the chances are the 

 man who carried it on got the honey. 



Mr. Ahlers — If you watch those 

 points and are careful, they will pay 

 them every time, and so will the ex- 

 press company. I would like to give 

 them credit where they deserve credit. 

 I have had two express claims paid 

 lere in Chicago this winter. 



Mr. Arnd — I have a claim against 

 the Illinois Central a year and a half 

 ago, for one box of sections I sent to 

 a customer and replaced them, and I 

 can't get $2.50 out of them. 



Mr. Ahlers — I had the railroad com- 

 pany notify me three different times 

 in New Orleans, when I was there in 

 business, to come and get money they 

 owed me; that was the Illinois Cen- 

 tral. 



Mr. Burnett — My experience has 

 been that the express companies are 

 the most difficult from whom to get re- 

 dress. I am talking of comb honey 

 now; they may break the honey away 

 from the wood, so that it is practically 

 all pulp, but if they have not broken 

 the case or outside package they will 

 not listen to a claim of damage. I 

 have had a number of those. 



I went through that some 25 years 

 ago, with an agent of the American 

 Express Co. here, and their conten- 

 tion was that if they broke the pack- 

 age, and it let out the contents, why, 

 then they held themselves amenable, 

 but not otherwise. 



Now in handling by express, they 

 usually have to do it quite rapidly at 

 stations here and elsewhere, and they 

 handle much more roughly than they 

 do by freight. For many years we 

 have not shipped any comb honey by 

 express, even if it were only a 50 lb. 

 lot or less; we sent it by freight. 



Mr. Burnett — I would like to have 

 Mr. Ahlers explain what the nature 

 of these claims were against the ex- 

 press company. 



Mr. Ahlers — A party from St. Louis 

 notified me that the box arrived ap- 

 parently in a very depleted or weak 

 condition — 3 combs entirely emptied; 

 I got this letter nearly evening. 



Mr. Burnett — That is extracted 

 honey; it is different. 



Mr. Ahlers — The express agent 

 phoned out to please give him the ad- 

 dress of this party; they couldn't 

 make out the address. 





