lS4 FOURTH ANNUAL REPORT 



get filled out, but I had to cater to the trade and I did it 

 just for that reason, no other, simply because people saw 

 that foundation and they said, "Well, that looks as if it was 

 manufactured; I am a little afraid of it." 



Mr. Kimniey — I would like to ask some of these prac- 

 tical men when they speak of foundation drawn out what pro- 

 portion of foundation is used in honey? I speak now of sec- 

 tion honey; such as is produced by Dr. Miller's bees. 



Dr. Miller — 'That will depend largely on the foundation 

 itself. 



Mr. Kimmey — Take the thin surplus foundation? 



Dr. Milller — I should say that the thin foundation is 

 drawn out perhaps an eighth of an inch. 



Mr. Kimmey — So that you would not dare recommend 

 your product as being the work of the bees without any 

 artificial assistance. 



Dr. Miller — Certainly not if there is foundation in it. 



Mr. Kimmey — The question is whether we are to tell the 

 truth about it or try to deceive them ; I believe the truth 

 is the best. 



Dr. Miller — Certainly. I don't think any reasonable per- 

 son would object to that, and I don't think an unreasonable 

 person will object to that after you have explained it to him 

 as much as he would without the explanation. 



Mr. Kimmey — I will confess I was one of those persons 

 for two years who firmly believed honey was manufactured — 

 comb honey, everything by machinery. I heard it so often. 

 I knew so many things that I firmly believed the comb honey 

 capping and everything was manufactured. I have found out 

 differently since, but I have found out also that the founda- 

 tion is manufactured. I can't say it is to the detriment of 

 anybody, and I don't believe in trying to deceive or fool any- 

 body. 



Mr. Bacon — When you come right down to it, foundation 

 is not manufactured ; it is pure beeswax and is merely pressed 

 out; it is originally made by the bees. 



Mr. Kimmey — If you can manufacture the full comb and 

 fill it with the pure article, that is absolutely pure; it is just 

 as good as though made by your bees. 



Mr. Meredith — I would like to have Mr. Dadant and Mr. 

 Root give their opinion of how -much of the medium or light 

 brood can be drawn out in the shape of foundation. 



Mr. Dadant — If you give foundation and the bees are not 

 too much in a hurry they will draw it nearly entirely into 

 comb. There is a great difference in the result between when 

 the bees are in a hurry and when they are not. If they are 

 in a hurry and they have plenty of wax they will add to the 

 foundation without drawing it much. They will always work 

 the foundation over. They have changed the shape of it; 

 they have changed it to suit themselves. They always thin it 

 a little if they have plenty. I suppose you understand that 

 clearly. Of course it is according to the grades of foundation, 

 you have thicker or thinner combs both into the midrib and 

 also in the wall. The first is always the best for comb honey. 



