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tee as to its purity, it would find a 

 ready sale, and the demand for it would 

 grow. 



Mr. Hinderer spoke in favor of the 

 label recommended by the National. 



(Something was said about what Dr. 

 Bohrer of Lyons, Kan., said on that 

 subject at San Antonio.) (See Report 

 of National, included in this Report.) 



The relative values of comb and ex- 

 tracted honey were advocated by various 

 members. Mr. Black insisted that the 

 human system needed something be- 

 sides what is easily digested; and the 

 comb was in no way objectionable. He 

 also quoted eminent physicians as ad- 

 vising the use of milk and honey as 

 better than medicines. 



Mr. Pyle thought, while extracted 

 honey s^hould be used, and had advant- 

 ages over the other, that the taste of 

 comb honey was far superior. 



Mr. Kildow thought the same — that 

 take a section of honey and extract it 

 and it was not the same thing, not 

 nearly as good. He never could keep 

 the same flavor outside the comb that 

 'it has in the comb. 



Mr. Johnson said he thought all the 

 five senses helped each ~~ other, and sym- 

 pathized with each other. Take butter, 

 for example: If it is not a good color 

 it does not taste as well. The eye has 

 the power to control the taste. 



Mr. Black spoke of the keeping 

 qualities of comb honey. He had found 

 that some that had been standing for 

 4 years was as solid and perfect as when 

 taken from the (hive. 



Mr. Becker mentioned one of his cus- 

 tomers who used 60 to 75 pounds a 

 year, who- wanted both kinds. 



Mr. Johnson said he sold some comb 

 honey because some wanted it. If they 

 would all take it he would rather sell 

 all extracted honey, but we must pro- 

 duce what people want. 



Pres. Smith — That is true, and bee- 

 keepers must learn that fact to be suc- 

 cessful. If consumers want a certain 

 kind, produce that variety. 



Mr. Stone thought customers will 

 want just what we educate them to, and 

 he was tired producing comb honey. 

 He thought it impracticable to use the 

 combs again for comb honey. His cus- 

 tomers just ask for honey, but few 

 ask for comb honey. Some object to 

 the extracted honey, saying it might 

 not be pure honey, could be more easily 

 a dulterated ; but after explaining to them 



how; the honey is extracted they like 

 it and do not care for the other again. 



Mr. Kildow thought it made a diflfer- 

 ence where you live, near to or distant 

 from a large market. 



From the discussion of extracted 

 honey the talk drifted to the subject 

 of markets, and Mr. Dadant said 

 the sale to private individuals was 

 helping us today. They had been 

 unable to sell through wholesale 

 grocers. Grocers could handle the 

 product that was labeled. 



Mr. Black asked the proportion of 

 comb to honey and Mr. Dadant ans- 

 wered that he could not say positively. 

 From 25 to 40 per cent. The size of 

 the cells has something to do with it. 

 Drone-cells are larger in proportion. 

 Mr. Dadant wished to say that this mat- 

 ter of eating comb depends largely up- 

 on taste. 



The matter of advertising, whether 

 the daily papers, the large Sunday edi- 

 tions or the bee-papers were the best 

 rnedium. It was said that the bee- 

 papers reached only men who were in 

 the business and not customers for 

 honey; but some of the members said 

 they had found them to be good ad- 

 vertising mediums. Others had had 

 success from advertising in the large 

 daily newspapers. 



At this stage in the discussion Mr. 

 Holekamp was admitted to the hall and 

 a short recess was taken to enable the 

 members to meet and greet him. Then 

 Pres. Smith, who had been speaking 

 when Mr. Holekamp came in resumed 

 his narration of how he secured the 

 local trade, by sending honey to the 

 grocer who would not buy it, but with 

 whom he left it nevertheless, to be dis- 

 posed of as he might find customers. 

 Within 30 days he telephoned Mr. Smith 

 to bring him more, and Mr. Sihith has 

 had no trouble since. 



Mr. Holekamp said he thought the 

 better market for extracted honey 

 would have to be made.. The demand 

 for it must be created. One great 

 trouble with extracted honey is that 

 it granulates, and then when left in 

 the dealer's hands is not marketable. 



Mr. Black said you could not sell 

 granulated honey. 



Mr. Dadant said in regard to granu- 

 lated honey, that there was a class of 

 buyers who wanted honey in glass jars 

 so it could be readily examined. He 

 suggested putting the product up in at- 



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