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doesn't grow on the roadside. I have 

 sowed it on heavy soils, and when it 

 once got rooted it grew. It does bet- 

 ter on hard land, and where it grows 

 in our state is principally on hard, 

 sandy ground. 



Mr. Anderson: It grows well by the 

 roadside. 



Dr. Bohrer: I never sowed it on hard 

 ground, but in the spring I scatter 

 it alang the road under the hedges, 

 and along fences. It grows there. 



Mr. Wilcox: Where the grain died 

 out is where sweet clover grows. Sow 

 the clover with the grain. In produc- 

 ing alfalfa, it is recommended by those 

 ^experienced that you should not sow 

 it with other crops of grain, but sow 

 it alone, and that is the surest way 

 of securing a good stand. I suppose 

 it is thfe same with sweet clover. There 

 may be something in the talk in regard 

 to bacteBia. Itou may lack bacteria to 

 start sweet clover. It is believed that 

 if you use soil where sweet clover 

 grows the bacteria will start the al- 

 falfa. Where sweet clover has never 

 grown introduce proper bacteria. 



Mr. Burnett: For some years we 

 undertook to raise alfalfa by giving 

 it great care, and no care, etc., but we 

 had the best results on land that was 

 tilled and no crop put in. Then we 

 would get very poor results. I am sat- 

 isfied from what I know of sweet clov- 

 er that if you can get a little soil 

 from around the plant and mix it 

 with seed, almost every seed will grow. 



Mr. Baldridge: No, it will not grow 

 on any soil, but it can be made to do 

 so. In Arkansas I am advised that 

 they have a great deal of soil that will 

 not grow sweet clover. They claim that 

 there is no lime in the soil. Sweet 

 clover must have lime. Supply the 

 soil with lime and you can grow sweet 

 clover. You can grow it with ashes. 

 You can plant sweet clover in hills 

 and put in a pound or a quart of ashes. 

 Coal ashes will make it grow. I have 

 grown a box of sweet clover, yes, a foot 

 higs, in simply coal ashes. I have 

 a photograph of that growth. 

 There is lime enough in the ashes of 

 hard coal to make it grow nicely. 

 You can get an abundance of that 

 thing wherever they use hard coal. I 

 claim you can make it grow on any 

 land by using lime or coal ashes. 



At this point Mr. Whitney gave a 

 very interesting exhibition of his new 

 comb leveler, and also his method of 

 wiring brood-frames. 



Honey Now and 40 Years Ago. 



"How much more honey is produced 

 now than 40 years ago?" 



Mr. Winter: When I started in bee- 

 keeping I bought the 4% plain sec- 

 tions. What is the standard size for 

 sections? 



Mr. Taylor: 4% x 4%— 7 to the 

 foot. 



Mr. Wheeler: 4% x 4%, bee- way 

 section. 



Dr. Miller: How many prefer 4% x 

 4% — 7 to the foot, bee- way sections? 

 (5.) How many prefer 4%x4%xl% 

 bee-way? (5.) How many prefer plain 

 sections? (6.) How many prefer bee- 

 way sections? (12.) How many pre- 

 fer tall sections? (2.) How many pre- 

 fer 3% X 5? (1.) 



A Member: The 3% x 53/^, 7 to the 

 foot, 2 bee-way section makes a very 

 handsome section. I like them. My 

 bees will work them quicker than the 

 4% sections. I think they work the 

 tali sections quicker. 



Langstroth or Shallow Frames for Ex- 

 tracting. 



"Which, will produce the most honey, 

 all things being equal — the standard 

 Langstroth frame, or the shallow 

 frame for extracted honey?" 



Mr. Wilcox: I do not believe it will 

 make any difference in the quantity. 

 But it might make a difference to the 

 operator. -I prefer the Langstroth mj^- 

 self. 



Mr. Dadant: The depth of the shal- 

 low frame must be considered. If the 

 shallow frame is as shallow as the 

 sections, I believe there is no doubt. 

 If you place the question in a differ- 

 ent light; if you, as I do, use a larger 

 hive than a Langstroth, then I would 

 say that a shallower frame than the 

 Langstroth would be easier to handle 

 to extract. We get comb a trifle less 

 than 6 inches in depth. A stroke of 

 the knife will cut it without going 

 twice over it. I believe these frames 

 will prove more satisfactory to apiar- 

 ists. Where there is a small crop you 

 give the bees full Langstroth frames 

 when there is no need of giving such 

 large frames, except in extraordinary 

 seasons. 



Pollen in Surplus Honey. 



"Can pollen be kept out of the sur- 

 plus chamber when supplied with sec- 

 tions or brood-frames? If so, how?" 



Mr. Wilcox: I never had any trouble 



