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brood, the brood will be destroyed. 

 The juice is sucked out. 



If I understand rightly, Mr. McEvoy 

 distinguishes the starvation of the 

 whole colony. He distinguishes it by 

 saying this starve brood is a case, 

 where there is enough to keep them 

 going, so as not to destroy the brood, 

 but still so small an amount that it is 

 stunting the brood, and some more or 

 less die in that way. It appears as a 

 disease when it is then only a starving 

 of the brood. It is barely possible the 

 case here may be what Mr. McEvoy 

 calls starve brood. 



Mr. President: He said if there was 

 plenty of honey flowing the disease 

 was still there. 



Mr. Gray: I should say it has hung 

 on for three years. 



Last fall we had a good fall flow. 

 They had plenty of honey. Had a fair 

 crop this year, ^xtra good, it keeps 

 right up. 



Mr. President: I don't think it is 

 starve brood. 



Mr. Pyle: I would say it was poison 

 in some form. It appears to be coming 

 out even after the bees are sealed up 

 for eight or nine days, like at the 

 capping period. If it was the unsealed 

 brood it would be some manner of pois- 

 oning. 



Mr. President: Wouldn't that af- 

 fect the old bees? 



Dr. Miller: Some cases, yes, sir. 

 Some, no, sir. 



Mr. Insmere: I live down in Chris- 

 tian county. I had over fifty hives 

 affected like my friend; only way I 

 would find was to shake them off on a 

 full fed foundation. I transferred some 

 and the queen would come up from 

 the foundation, and where the body 

 was affected top was affected also. 

 Only way I could find was to shake 

 them off on a full fed foundation. 

 That is the only remedy I could find. 



It struck me two years ago. I have 

 practically gotten over it. My bees 

 are in good shape now. I was affected 

 for two years and I expect fifty or 

 seventy stands. 



Mr. Spracklen: Mr. President, this 

 foul brood and sour brood and such 

 diseases as that I have had no ex- 

 perience with. I have once in a while 

 a stand that will lose out, and come 

 out on the ground and lay down and 

 die, which I attribute to poison, be- 



cause of foul brood and sour brood I 

 am perfectly ignorant. 



Dr. Miller: I do not think we can 

 get any more light on this subject. I 

 would suggest that a sample of this be 

 sent to Dr. Phillips at Washington. I 

 think in that way light may be thrown 

 upon it. It looks like a new disease. I 

 would send a sample to Dr. Phillips 

 at Washington. I think you can find 

 out there if anywhere what it is. 



The President: Any further discus- 

 sions? 



Dr. Miller: I v/ould suggest, Mr. 

 President, that slips be passed, that 

 members may write questions for the 

 question box. 



The President: The Secretary will 

 pass them. 



Dr. Miller: I think in that way we 

 can get the good of it through the 

 question box. 



Mr. Kildow: Have we any rates 

 with regard to the shipment of honey 

 in glass and in the comb? 



The President: I don't know wheth- 

 er there is a special freight rate, but 

 there is by express. 



Mr. JCildow: We are in a tangle in 

 our neighborhood, and I would like to 

 know if anybody knows anything about 

 it? It was in my mind that a year 

 or two ago there was a rate on honey. 

 Since that time I sent some and they 

 class honey in cases as honey in glass, 

 and the honey in glass is listed honey 

 in glass. 



I had a case this fall to be shipped 

 to Peoria in our State. It is classed 

 honey in boxes eight by four (8x4), by 

 car, and ten by four (10x4), by local. 

 When we shipped it to Peoria most of 

 the honey was packed in the car in 

 cases and filled up with straw behind 

 and in front, and a few crates of honey 

 were just crated in the crate. 



When the car was opened at Peoria 

 the inspector got sight of the honey in 

 the glass, and he charged us the same 

 for honey in cases with a little strip of 

 glass, as for honey in glass. It looks to 

 ine like that is wrong. He classes hon- 

 ey in wood cases with a little strip 

 of glass as honey in glass. 



I thought I would bring it up to see if 

 we could throw any light on it so we 

 could remedy it. 



The President: I think that is a good 

 question and it ought to be talked on. 

 I know the rate is too high. 



Mr. Kildow: Wouldn't be so high if 



