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IT-.L.INOIS t?TATE BEE-KEEPERS' ASSOCIATION 



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How many in the room have the 

 same frames they started with the 

 first time and think they are right? 



Mr. Moore: I can say I do, and I 

 have used them five years. 



Mr. Becker: I have the same frames 

 I used thirty (30) years ago. 



Mr. Moore: Only experience I had 

 Tsefore that was when my father kept 

 hives in the American frame, but since 

 I have been keeping bees myself, since 

 1903, the last five years. I started with 

 the HofEman frame. I have thirty (30) 

 or forty (40) of the Danzenbaker, but 

 I prefer the HofEman. 



Mr. Lee: I started in 1862 and I 

 have the same frames. 



Dr. Miller: I started a year sooner 

 and I have had seven different frames, 



Mr. Spracklen: I started in 1882 

 and I have had five different frames 

 since that time but I prefer the HofE- 

 man. I have had the American and 

 New Ideal and other patents, also the 

 Improved Simplicity, but I prefer the 

 HofEman. 



Mr. Werner: I started in 1887. I 

 used the Simplicity but it was so weak. 

 Since I started the HofEman I have al- 

 ways used it. Don't have to keep the 

 frames apart to keep them from jolt- 

 ing together. ^ 



Mr. Poindexter: I have used one 

 size frame, that is, since 1870. I pre- 

 fer that. I like a large frame. One of 

 the main reasons why I like a large 

 frame it is much easier to keep. I 

 have had some other frames in use 

 and they require sometimes two or 

 three (2 or 3) times as long to find the 

 ■queen as in a large frame. That is 

 the reason why I like a large frame. 

 I use about a twenty-inch hive. Twen- 

 ty inches long. Sometimes near 

 eighteen or twenty inches long and 

 nine inches deep or ten inches deep. 



Question No. 7. 



What are the prospects for white 

 clover next season? 



Mr. Kildow: Putnam County is 

 very slim. 



Mr. Holekamp: That is a question 

 of locality. Probably in some localities 

 it is dried out. 



Mr. Hyde: I put that question in 

 myself. Some might have honey we 

 wouldn't sell we might hold it over, 

 especially our extracted honey. 



Brother Dadant does that and he 

 gets good prices for his honey. I would 

 like to know. 



Mr. Hutchinson, of Michigan, thinks 

 there won't be any white clover. 



Mr. Holekamp i I would answer that 

 there is considerable honey left from 

 last year. I know of a party that has 

 one thousand pounds and there prob- 

 ably will be a good deal this year. 



Dr. Miller: That is an important 

 question, and getting the view of each 

 one. 



I think a vote — how many think the 

 clover is badly hurt a^d how many 

 not — would be a good thing. I should 

 place a great deal of confidence in 

 that. 



In my locality, while the drought is 

 very severe, there will be plenty of 

 clover next year. Plenty of roots left 

 for plenty of clover next year. 



I wish you would ask how many 

 men in the locality think the clover is 

 injured and how many not. 



A Member: Christian County has 

 ten thousand acres of clover, and if 

 half was killed there would still be 

 plenty. On the light soil it is injured 

 but on the dark soil it is not injured. 

 But even if half of it was killed we 

 would have enough to have a big 

 honey-flow next year. 



Mr. Stone: We have a member of 

 our Association that I saw at the 

 Farmers' Institute at the Arsenal. He 

 lives a few miles south. It is Dr. 

 Southwick. He told me he had twenty 

 or thirty acres of Alsike clover, and I 

 insisted on his being here at this meet- 

 ing and he was going to bring samples, 

 and I still hope he will be here. He 

 encourages the bringing in of the seed 

 by paying the freight and giving his 

 neighbors the seed at the original cost, 

 and he gets a good many to sow that 

 way. He said his bees had all the 

 range they wanted of Alsike. He only 

 had about one hundred colonies. 



Dr. Miller: I would like very much 

 a vote on this question. 



How many think clover is hurt for 

 next year? 



Mr. Spracklen: "The south part of 

 Shelby County is very slim, but on 

 investigation over fields you will see 

 there are little sprays, but it looks 

 very sickly. 



In regard to the Alsike I would say 

 it is very much trouble to get it to 

 propagate. Quite a good deal was 



