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throw aside a few of the shallow ones. 

 So mainly commence with the deep 

 ones. The probability is you will want 

 to use the shallow ones afterwards. 



Mr. Moore: Please consider an ar- 

 g-ument on the divisible brood cham- 

 ber. 



I expect next season to try it. I 

 don't know whether it will work in 

 my locality. Some of our leading bee- 

 keepers keep it and they think it is 

 very good. 



Mr. Stone: In advising a new begin- 

 ner I would say just how I did, be- 

 cause that is the only way I know. I 

 wouldn't advise a beginner to begin 

 with extracted honey. Take hold of 

 extracted honey when they are 

 educated in it. 



When I began I began with comb 

 honey, and not any more than we 

 used in our own family. When I saw 

 the advantage of extracted honey I 

 gave my customers some extracted 

 honey, and now they don't want any 

 other kind. Sometimes I get a cus- 

 tomer that wants some comb honey 

 and I start them with that and extract- 

 ed honey, too. 



Mr. Holekamp: We always get a 

 number of combs which have drone 

 cells in them, especially where a per- 

 son buys bees and in that way get a 

 good many cells with drone frames. 

 Thoss frames can be removed and used 

 in the extracting super, and in that 

 way we get our brood chambers in 

 much better condition than if we didn't 

 have those frames. All those not to 

 our liking we can set upstairs and it 

 makes our other frames in the brood 

 chamber much more even, and I con- 

 sider it much of an advantage. 



Mr. Spracklen: That is my question. 

 And I have been reading the bee books 

 and journals, and I saw the records of 

 the two supers for extracted honey, 

 and as I work for both comb honey 

 and extracted honey it was a question 

 whether I would use deep and shallow 

 frames together, and I am fully satis- 

 fied at the present time from what I 

 have heard from the brothers here 

 that I will not change to the shallow 

 frames. I have more call for extracted 

 honey than for comb honey. 



Mr. Becker: I believe I sell about 

 as much extracted honey here in 

 Springfield as anyone. As to the 

 frames, I prefer the shallow frames. I 

 don't ask anybody who w^ants to use 



the deep frames to use the shallow, 

 but I like them. 



Mr. Stone: Did you ever use the deep 

 frames? 



Mr. Becker: Yes, sir. I have one 

 hundred right now. They are too much 

 hard work for me to extract. I take a 

 shallow one and my honey knife and 

 go clean through it and with the other 

 you have to take another cut and they 

 are never as evenly filled as the shal-- 

 low. I had in the neighborhood of 

 twenty-five hundred of comb and thir- 

 ty-three hundred pounds of extracted 

 honey. I just got through day before 

 yesterday. Liast week I extracted about 

 fifteen gallons. 



During these two warm days it 

 looked like the month of July, and the 

 bees were just swarming back and 

 forwards. Some acted like they were 

 swarming, ''and cleaned it all up. I 

 sell all my honey in Springfield. I 

 shipped a little by order. Shipped 

 eighteen gallons to St. Louis and twen- 

 ty gallons* to Chicago to friends of 

 mine. 



I have a ready market for it in 

 Springfield. I put it up in jelly glasses, 

 ten cents retail, another fifteen cents 

 retail, another twenty cents retail, and 

 another at twenty-five cents retail. 

 One glass and three bottles. 



I met three different dealers in 

 Springfield this fall, and I guess in at 

 least one -half of the stores in Spring- 

 field, grocery stores, you can find my 

 honey. One man came in from Jack- 

 sonville and sold a little. I found it 

 in three stores. That is the only ex- 

 tracted honey I saw with the excep- 

 tion of a little brought from Cleveland, 

 Ohio, and I sell it to parties that stock 

 up and take eighteen dozen at a time. 



Mr. Poindexter: Can't you extract 

 just as quickly out of a large frame 

 and handle it just as quickly as a small 

 frame? 



Mr. Gray: I work for both comb 

 and extracted honey. I use the shal- 

 low frames. I use both but the deep 

 frames are a little heavy to handle 

 for us old fellows. I have shallow ones 

 that go into a four and one-third super. 

 I use about a six- inch frame. If we 

 leave the honey on the hive till the 

 season is well over my experience has 

 been that the medium deep frame is bet- 

 ter for old people to handle. It is much 

 easier to handle. It is much easier 

 for me. And as to the divisible brood 

 chamber, I put some on those narrow 



