ILLINOIS STATE BEE-KEEPERS' ASSOCIATION 



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barrel and break the honey. I have 

 seen this when I have bought honey, 

 and I instructed the shippers to put 

 more in, if they couldn't even it up, 

 rather make a crate with ten than 

 with six. If they put in less than six, 

 if it was shipped by express, it came 

 all broken and we have been getting 

 hundreds of crates of honey. 



Mr. Becker: I have bought three 

 years' honey from "W. J. Manly in San- 

 dusky, Michigan, from five to eight 

 hundred pounds at a time. He crates 

 it for me and never have I had a crate 

 come that leaked. There were from 

 eight to twelve in a case of twenty 

 sections, in a case that came a long 

 ways, from Sandusky, Michigan, to 

 Cincinnati, Ohio, from that to Decatur, 

 from Decatur to Springfield and from 

 :='pringfield to Pleasant Plains. 



Mr. Holekamp: In small towns they 

 unload honey probably with more care 

 than in a large city. In a large city 

 where these stations are the honey is 

 thrown from the cars on to the plat- 

 form under the sheds. They are han- 

 dled as carefully as an agenl^ will be 

 where he often knows the parties who 

 receive the honey. And shipping to 

 a small place it is not as risky as 

 shipping to a large city where the 

 hands are less careful in unloading. 



Dr. Miller: We have had much in- 

 struction and it is an exceedingly 

 good paper. Just one point. I am a 

 little unsettled as to what the paper 

 advises when honey is packed in a 

 ear. One thing which you ex- 

 plain is how to place the shipping 

 crate in the cars. The question as to 

 having straw in the bottom of the car; 

 I have never used straw and yet there 

 is a question in my mind whether that 

 isn't the best. 



Suppose you can't pack as perfectly. 

 You can't make as perfect a job of 

 making a packing of straw as on the 

 fioor. If I could have it on the side 

 of the car I know it may be good on 

 the bottom, but if it is irregular the 

 cases are more or less loose on the 

 bottom and that is objectionable. Be- 

 tween my own experience and what is 

 in the paper I am not sure just what is 

 right. 



Mr. Lee: Do you ship in carriers? 



Dr. Miller: Without carriers. 



Mr. York: My paper says not to put 

 anything in the bottom of the car. 



Dr. Miller: Didn't you advise straw 

 on each end? 



Mr. York: Yes, sir. 



Dr. Miller: There is that objection, 

 you can't make as square as a job. 

 When I have loaded a load of honey it 

 is butted up against the end and you 

 can't move a case the least bit. Wheth- 

 er I could make as good a job with 

 straw on the end is a question. 



Mr. Holekamp: When I get honey 

 the ends are filled and stamped in 

 with straw; it must not be thrown 

 in, but the honey must be tight in 

 the car; that much straw must be 

 put in. 



Dr. Miller: Straw at the end or 

 side? 



Mr. Holekamp: The straw at the 

 sides must be stamped down. 



Dr. Miller: I have given that up. 

 Instead of that, if there is a space, 

 as there often will be, half the size 

 of a case to fill up, instead of tramping 

 straw I like a board setting vertically 

 nailed on the floor so it can't budge, at 

 the top nailed with a little board across 

 it so it is straight and I haven't straw 

 there, but there isn't anything can 

 move. It is expected to be straight 

 and isn't much jar sideways, but I 

 want it so nothing will move. I think 

 that is better than straw. 



Mr. Lee: Does any of your honey 

 break down in shipping? 



Dr. Miller: I have had a little the 

 other day. On a shipment made in a 

 car probably five hundred miles the 

 report came in it was in perfect shape. 



Mr. Holekamp: The cars that cama 

 to me have to come over the Rocky 

 Mountains, and that makes a difCer- 

 ence. 



Here reading was given by Mrs. 

 Snyder. 



Dr. Miller: I don't suppose there is 

 a book more beautifully written than 

 the book we have just heard read 

 from. And if you take that book to 

 learn something from you will be mis- 

 taken. And you bee-keepers that have 

 been listening have listened to some 

 printed facts. 



Mr. Poindexter: I would like to ob- 

 ject to that last part of that reading 

 about bees having scouts sent out to 

 seek a new home. 



Mr. Moore: I was the one that 

 spoke to Mrs. Snyder. It is a beauti- 

 ful reading, but we must take it with 

 a few grains of salt. It is something 

 we should all read but we can't follow 



