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EIGHTH ANNUAL. REPORT OF THE 



ours. We are all Illinois bee-keepers. 

 The appropriation is made out of the 

 public funds of the State, but it must 

 be made through and to the Illinois 

 State Bee-Keepers' Association, be- 

 cause we are the only one recognized, 

 as we work under a charter, the same 

 as the State Horticulturists or any 

 other of the State organizations. I 

 would like very milch to have all of 

 your names so that we can enter them 

 on our list in the State Association. 

 We ■'are willing to divide the money 

 with you. Tou get out of it just what 

 we get out of it. I think that is a fain 

 proposition. Don't you think so, Mr 

 York? 

 President York: I think so. 



Mr. Smith: We need your assist- 

 ance and advice, and while you can 

 not come and meet with us, we are 

 willing to pay for you to send a dele- 

 g.ate. You can delegate any one here 

 you wish to attend our Association, 

 and we will pay his expenses at our 

 next meeting. NoT>^ I would like to 

 hear from some of ffie members of 

 the Northwestern. 



Dr. Miller: What would it cost us 

 to get this report? In other words, 

 how much is there in it for us? 



President York: I, perhaps, can an- 

 swer that. This Association has never 

 paid for a single report that has been 

 taken. Heretofore I have always done 

 it for the American Bee Journal. But 

 this year the State Association agrees 

 to pay for it and have it published in 

 their report. I have allowed theta to 

 use it heretofore. One year we had 

 two or three hundred pages of type- 

 written report, which cost us in the 

 neighborhood of seventy-five or eighty 

 dollars, which was a very full report — 

 the most expensive we have ever had. 

 The Chicago-Northwestern Bee-Keep- 

 ers' Association has about the longest 

 and the best report of any bee-conven- 

 tion in any country. We have more 

 questions discussed than any other 

 bee-keepers' association. That is one 

 reason our reports are usually long, if 

 they are taken very full. 



Dr. Miller: In dollars and cents 

 what do you say this report would cost 

 us? 



President York: I cannot tell, but it 

 vnll be in the neighborhood of $50.00 

 or $60.00, or more, if it is as long as 

 some have been. 



Dr. Miller: The membership of this 

 Association is about how many? 



Mr. Moore: The membership is very 



fluctuating. There are about two hun- 

 dred who have paid us their dues. 

 At the date of this meeting there were 

 about fifty. Tliey let their member- 

 ship lapse. 



Dr. Miller: About how much money 

 are you likely to get in the course of 

 the year from membership; how many 

 have paid a dollar within the last 

 year ? 



Mr. Moore: Fifty- six. Of course, 

 this was a panic year, and the worst 

 we have known. 



Dr. Miller: Let us call it $60.00. That 

 would be $15.00 that you would ask 

 us to pay into the State Association's 

 treasury to make us all members, and 

 we would get out of it about $60.00. 

 If I understand the thing squarely we 

 are to get from them about four times 

 as much as we pay them. I am ready 

 to call it a bargain for one. 



Mr. Horstmann: I like the proposi- 

 tion Mr. Smith made to us. I think it 

 would be a good thing to go into that 

 Association. I thought myself that we 

 had not been treated fair. I wrote to 

 the Secretary of the State Association 

 once and said I didn't believe in "tax- 

 ation without representation." He 

 wrote back and took me at my word, 

 and I have never got a report since, 

 and I would like to have those reports. 

 I am in favor of this Association go- 

 ing in in a body. 



Mr. Moore: The year before that we 

 got about $80.00. 



Dr. Miller: There was last year an 

 objection raised, and it was a valid 

 one. Hera is an outside "barbarian" 

 like Mr. Wilcox — I mean a gentleman 

 from Wisconsin. (I don't want to hurt 

 Mr. Wilcox's feelings). It is a nat- 

 ural thing that a man outside of the 

 State would say, "We don't belong in 

 Illinois." But if we can get more 

 money out of it than we put in, it is 

 a good thing. Now, I will tell you one 

 thing that has a good deal of bearing 

 upon this: Pardon me if I say that 

 this whole thing looks a little bit liks 

 the tail swinging the dog; but we are 

 willing to be swung if we can make 

 enough out of it. The State Legislature 

 counts on the State Association as be- 

 ing a good deal bigger than the Chrcago 

 Association; is that not so, Mr. Smith? 



Mr. Smith: Yes, sir. 



Dr. Miller: The State Association 

 comes directly in contact with the 

 Legislature. If we want laws made, 

 and if we want to have the recognition 

 of the Legislature, we will, by affiliat- 



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