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one paid any attention to it. Mr. 

 Taylor wrote a week or so ago and' 

 ask€d what had been done, and I told 

 him he was the only one who had, 

 paid any attention to it. 



Mr. Kimmey: Mr. Taylor has the 

 super here, and I suppose his object 

 was to exhibit the manipulation of it 

 before us. I think it would be w^ell 

 to set some time when he could do 

 that, and I think a good time would 

 be this afternoon or evening. His ex- 

 hibiting it this afternoon may induce 

 some other brother or sister to do the 

 same thing to-morrow. There is noth- 

 ing else that will interest me more 

 than to have Dr. Miller exihbit his 

 super, and I would like to see Mr. 

 Taylor's, too. 



Dr. Miller: Allow me to amplify my 

 answer by saying that I couldn't 

 bring a super of honey as desired be- 

 cause the idea was to get it as it 

 came from the hive. I have not k 

 super of honey as it came from thfe 

 hive. ! 



President York: "We will call on Mr. 

 Taylor to exhibit his super of honey. 



Mr. Taylor: This case just came 

 from the hive. It is a section out of 

 the case. Some laugh at me because 

 I take them out with my thumb nail. 



Dr. Miller: Can you tell us when 

 it was taken from the hive? 



Mr. Taylor: I cannot tell the day; I 

 can tell about the time. It was prob- 

 ably about from the first to the sev- 

 enth of July. Tou can see how it is 

 done, and how clean it keeps the 

 wood — very little scraping to do, and 

 no comb starters. 



A Member: Why not, Mr. Taylor? 



Mr. -il^aylor: Why not? What's the 

 use? ^ 



A Member: Is there any objection 

 to tliem? 



Mr. Taylor: Yes; it takes a lot of 

 time. 



A. Member: Is that a super just as 

 it came from the bees? 



Mr. Taylor: Exactly the same — just 

 as it came out. 



A Member: Never been opened be- 

 fore? 



Mr. Taylor: No, sir; never opened 

 until just now. 



A Member: Wasn't that produced 

 on a Heddon hive with one story? 

 Mr. Taylor: Two stories. 



A Member: What is the name of 

 the super? 



Mr. Taylor: I don't know any name 

 but the Heddon wide-frame super. 

 What is Heddon about it is these side 

 screws. If you want to, you can put 

 the sections in, and when they are 

 pretty well done you can turn the 

 case over, and you get the sections 

 filled up. The sections are four pieces, 

 seven to the foot, dovetailed. 



A Member: I would like to ask if 

 that super has ever been inverted? 



Mr. Taylor: Yes, that was inverted. 



Mr. Moore: What was the object 

 of inversion, Mr. Taylor, to get them 

 better filled all over? 



Mr. Taylor: Yes. 



Mr. Moore: I would be interested 

 to hear just what the points of ad- 

 vantage are over ordinary supers, or 

 other supers. 



Mr. Taylor: Over supers that don't 

 have the wide frame, of course it 

 keeps the section cleaner. You will 

 leave the top and the bottom intact; 

 and you may sandpaper and scrape it, 

 but you never can make it like the 

 wood, at least I never could. 



Mr. Moore: You find no necessity 

 for cleaning them at all in order to 

 sell them? 



Mr. Taylor: Of course, you give 

 them a little scrape and take off what 

 you see. You invert the super. But I 

 don't always invert them. 



Dr. Miller: At what stage of ad- 

 vancement do you invert? 



Mr. Taylor: Just as soon as the 

 combs will stand up. 



Dr. Miller: With regard to the ex- 

 pansion in wet weather. I would ask 

 whether it ever injures the case on 

 being screwed up tight. 



Mr. Taylor: No. These sections are 

 not basswood; they are poplar. It 

 makes quite a difference. I have used 

 basswood where they would sw^ell 

 sufficiently to push the case open. 



Mr. Whitney: How much of a start- 

 er do you use, the full sheet? 



Mr. Taylor: Full sheet, full as I 

 can. It -doesn't touch the bottom quite. 



Dr. Miller: About what margin do 

 you leave below? 



Mr. Taylor: About three -sixteenths, 

 I try. 



Mr. Frank: What weight of founda- 

 tion do you use? 



