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at the same time that they do the cen- 

 ter. I take out one row of sections 

 and fill it out with a dummy, some- 

 thing lilie Dr. Miller's bottom rack, to 

 allow the bees to have free access up 

 and down and out of the hive, and 

 it seemed to iwork finely. My sections 

 on the outside are finished up better 

 than they used to be. 



Mr. Whitney: Do you use separa- 

 tors at all ? 



Mr. Wheeler: Just the same, I use 

 separators. 



Dr. Miller: I would like to ask Mr. 

 Whitney if he thinks that without 

 separators seven-to-the-foot, which 

 would be not far from 1% inches 

 from center to center, if he thinks 

 that would be as well as to have 1% 

 from center to center. 



Mr. Whitney: I have had but litle 

 experience with those thinner sec- 

 tions, but what I have had leads me 

 to think that they would be better 

 than the seven-to-the-foot, although I 

 had quite a large stock of seven-to- 

 the-foot sections on hand, and used 

 them. I think if I were to buy now, 

 I would buy the thinner sections, to 

 run without separators. 



Dr. Miller: Another point that Mr. 

 Whitney brought up, it might be 

 worth while for us to ask a question 

 about. He said he was not able to 

 use fences without having something 

 objectionable, a washboard appear- 

 ance; something like that. Is that 

 correct ? 



Mr. Whitney: That is right. 



Dr. Miller: I would like to know if 

 that is the general experience. How 

 many have been able to use fences 

 without any such objectionable ap- 

 pearance ? 



Mr. Macklin: I have used tin sep- 

 arators to some extent, and I never 

 found any corrugations on the oomb 

 honey. , 



Dr. Miller: ' Why? 



Mr. Macklin: Too much work, I 

 prefer tin separators. I use a tin sep- 

 arator; it lasts forever, and costs very 

 little more than the sawed separator. 

 I buy lilO sheets In a 'box, and it costs 

 atout eight and a half cents a sheet; 

 a cent a separator. A sheet cuts into 

 eight separators, and there are strips 

 left that I use to hold the section- 

 holders. I much prefer the tin. 



Mr. Whitney: I simply wanted to 

 say in reference to the tin, I would 



prefer the tin to either of the others, 

 as I stated, because they are so much 

 easier to clean, and they are ever- 

 lasting, and if I was going to recom- 

 mend a beginner commencing honey 

 production, perhaps I would recom- 

 mend the use of separators. Dr, Mil- 

 ler said he didn't think the average 

 bee-keeper oould produce good honey 

 without separators. The average bee- 

 keeper, take the country over, cannot 

 produce good honey anyway. He is 

 not careful enough. He is careless and 

 slipshod. But I think the careful bee- 

 keeper who attends right to his busi- 

 ness — of course, he don't want to be 

 fooling around with a good many 

 other things — can produce the nicest 

 kind of section honey without separa- 

 tors. I have produced considerable 

 honey; I have a small apiary, and I 

 have seldom sold a case of honey for 

 less than $4.00. 



Dr. Miller: Mr. President, will you 

 be kind enough to go on with that 

 motion, and ask how many there are 

 who have used fences and found no 

 objection in the appearance of the 

 sections, and how many have used 

 them and found the appearance of the 

 sections objectionable on account of 

 them. 



Mr. Kimmey: I rise to ask Dr. Mil- 

 ler this question, in regard to the cor- 

 rugated appearance of the sections. T 

 may say that during the few years I 

 have kept bees, I have used the fences 

 from the start, simply because I read 

 some bee-papers where that was rec- 

 ommended. I got the Root ten-frame 

 super, seven section-holders, and I 

 have never noticed any corrugations 

 such as have been spoken of, and I 

 have produced as fine honey as I ever 

 saw anywhere. I think I like mine 

 better than this. You know the kind 

 I am speaking of; there is nothing to 

 cover the section on top. The three 

 sides are covered, one by the section- 

 holder at the hottom, and the ends of 

 the section-holder, at the outside end 

 of each row, and the other sections 

 come right together, just the simple, 

 plain sections. That leaves the top of 

 the sections uncovered, so that you 

 have to clean the top of the sections; 

 that is the main objection. But the 

 other parts of the section are superior, 

 because there are two edges of the 

 section that are uncovered, and in my 

 section there is only one, and they fit 

 closer than those do, and I think there 

 is less propolis along the under side 



