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tionably, he is right about that. But 

 as to pollen in the sections, I have 

 some suspicion that with shallow 

 frames I would have pollen in the sec- 

 tions, even if I used excluders. What 

 makes me think that is, that when 

 using shallow frames in the brood - 

 chamber I used them without ex- 

 cluders, but I had a very unpleasant 

 proportion of pollen in my sections, 

 and yet without brood, and I can hardly 

 see what difference the excluder 

 would make in that case, because the 

 queen didn't go up, but the bees took 

 pollen there, 



Mr. Wheeler: I have figured that 

 out in my own mind. T.he bees go to 

 work in the two stories in the Heddon 

 hive as deep as the Langstroth hive, 

 and begin storing the pollen where 

 they are going to have their brood- 

 nest, and after that brood-nest is es- 

 tablished and their plans made, they 

 don't lug any pollen outside of that. 

 Out of, maybe, three hundred supers 

 that I (had of comb honey, I had but 

 one of pollen. 



Dr. Miller: May I ask, Mr. Wheeler, 

 why mine did — because they did? 



Mr. Wheeler: Did you put your 

 super on at first when you hived 

 your swarm? 



Dr. Miller: No, sir. The super was 

 put 'On afterwards, after the brood- 

 nest was established. 



Mr. Wheeler: It must have been a 

 matter of location! I 'have been 

 troubled with pollen occasionally, but 

 thought I had the .matter overcome by 

 my present arrangement. 



Mr. Taylor: I think with Mr. 

 Wheeler's practice it is necessary to 

 use excluders. For some years I 

 practiced his nietihod. But hiving In 

 one section of the Heddon hive, of 

 course, for the same reason that Mr. 

 Wheeler does, I used two sectiofts for 

 two or three days, and then took one 

 away, but still there would be more 

 or less pollen taken Into the upper 

 story when the lower section was 

 taken away. It is a rather small 

 amount of room for a queen, and a 

 good queen will fill one section of 

 the Heddon hive entirely full of brood, 

 so there are but a few ounces of honey 

 in it, and not much room for pollen, 

 so that often the bees are compelled 

 to take their pollen above. I don't 

 practice that method any longer. 



Dr. Miller: May I ask right here if 

 Mr. Taylor thinks the use of an ex- 



cluder would prevent the pollen from 

 getting above? 



Mr. Taylor: I don't think it would. 

 In my practice, it doesn't. It may 

 have a tendency that way — not so 

 much taken up. But still I find pol- 

 len to some extent in olijectionable 

 quantities with the excluder. Now I 

 don't practice that method any longer. 

 I use the two sections of the Heddon 

 hive. 



Best Hive for Beginners. 



"What is the best hive for beginners 

 in apiculture?" 



Mr. Whitney: That question was 

 answered a year of two ago by Dr. 

 Miller. It was asked, and he said, 

 "Yes." 



Mr. Wilcox: I should say the same 

 hive that our forefathers left off with. 

 In other words, the best hive invented 

 up to the present. 



Dr. Bohrer: I live in a State where 

 bee-keeping is practiced on a very 

 small scale. When I first went there, 

 twenty-five years ago, I was Presi- 

 dent of the State Bee-Keepers' Associ- 

 ation, and held that position a great 

 many years, and a great many letters 

 were written to me asking, "What hive 

 shall I begin with?" I wrote a num- 

 ber of private letters, and said that 

 my judgment mig'ht not give satis- 

 faction, as some man might come 

 along who iwas a friend of some other 

 hive, and would condemn what I sug- 

 gested. I finally answered it on two _ 

 different occasions, through the "Kan- 

 sas Farmer." I have written for the 

 Bee-Keepers' Department 'Of the 

 "Kansas Farmer" for a number of 

 years. I said this, that in the records 

 upon the subject you will find that 

 more of our extensive bee-keepers are 

 using the Standard Langstroth hive 

 more than any other, and perhaps 

 more than all others combined, and 

 that a new bee-keeper would make no 

 mistake to commence with the Langs- 

 troth hive. But I said then, and say 

 it now, that I don't want to discourage 

 any man in the matter of experiment- 

 ing with or improving our bee-hives, 

 because it is too early yet to say that 

 we have reached perfection in that 

 direction. I know there have been 

 some improvements made in the 

 Langstroth hive in the last fifty years; 

 some very valuable improvements. 

 But for the average beginner, he will 

 make no mistake If he uses the 

 Langstroth hive. Mr. Bingham would 



