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say entirely different, but it is differ- 

 ent. A great imany things that he 

 omitted, I put in, and a great many 

 things I have left out that he had in 

 his book; but I use ihis hive just as 

 Ihe sent me a sample, over twenty 

 years ago, and there is not a thing 

 about it I would change today, except, 

 possibly, the top and bottom-bars are 

 a little shallow. A good many say, 

 "How do you iget those frames out of 

 there?" Mr. Heddon didn't tell us. 

 When I want to get those frames out 

 to extract, I use the old method that 

 I>r. Miller invented. Another point: I 

 don't use the tlhumb- screw; I leave a 

 space and crowd them against one an- 

 other. I can get any frame out I 

 please. 



Mr. Whitney — What do you run for, 

 extracted or comb? 



Mr. Wheeler — Both. 



Mr. Wilcox — The question was shal- 

 low hive — it was not the Heddon hive. 

 A hive I made was of my own inven- 

 tion, on the Langstroth plan, to be 

 used, one, two, three, four, or live 

 stories high, as I chose. It was made 

 just large enough so it could hold 

 4% -inch sections in the frame; you 

 see, they are shallower than the Hted- 

 don hive, only about 4% inches, out- 

 side measure. I used them very much 

 as I would use the L^ngstroth hive. 



Mr. Wheeler — I want to speak of one 

 thing, and that is just where so many 

 of these men have fallen down with 

 their divisible brood-dhamber hive; it 

 is the fact that they use a hanging 

 frame. That closed end- frame is the 

 whole secret of it. I don't shake my 

 bees out; you can't do it; I could not. 

 I have a way of taking my hive in 

 my han-d, and thumping one end of it 

 on soft ground; change it, and thump 

 the other, and in a short time you can 

 take every bee out of the hive without 

 injuring the comb; but you can't do 

 tlhat Tvith the Langstroth frame. 



Mr. Wilcox — Somebody in the Amer- 

 ican Bee Journal described the jounc- 

 ing process, by "Rambler." I tried it, 

 and have tried it ever since; when I* 

 want to take off extracting combs, I 

 throw the empty comb down on that, 

 and I have no trouble in getting out 

 the bees, 



Mr. Wheeler — The reason that I like 

 this divisible brood-chamber ihive, and 

 its being shallow, is, because, with 

 smoke, I drive tKe bees to the bottom 

 of the super and open the top of the 



hive. I can sihake the whole Siwarni. 

 out while I am talking to you. You 

 can't do tlhat in the Langstroth hive; 

 the bees get about the middle, and 

 you can smoke and smoke, and there 

 . will be the young bees and, possibly, 

 the queen, and you can't get them any 

 farther down; that is the trouble with 

 a deeper-frame hive. 



Size of Hives. 



"Which is the better, ai;i eigM or 

 ten-frame hive? Or does locality 

 make a difference?" 



Mr. Dadant — Go on to the next one. 



President York — How many here 

 prefer to use an eight- frame hive? 

 (Five.) 



President York — How many would 

 use a ten-frame hive in preference to 

 an eight? (Fifteen.) 



Mr. Whitney — ^Will you put the 

 question, "How many prefer to use 

 the nine-frame?" 



President York — How many? (One.> 



President York — How many prefer to 

 use a larger ttidve than ten-frame? 

 (Five.) 



Mr. Kannenberg — If I intended to run 

 for comb honey, I would prefer the 

 eight; if, for extracted honey, I would 

 rather have the ten. I think there are 

 a good many that way. 



President York — How many think 

 locality makes a difference? (F^ve.) 



President York — iHtow many think 

 locality does not? (Ten.) 



Mr. Horstmann — I didn't ask that 

 question, but I think it does not make 

 any difference whetiher you use on 

 eight or ten, either for comb or ex- 

 tracted — not a bit. I have used them 

 for comb and extracted. Tf you want 

 to get fancy comb honey, I think the 

 eight-frame hives have a little advan- 

 tage. If a bee-keeper is a good, big, 

 strong man, it would be all right for 

 him to use a ten-frame hive; if he 

 does not want to carry sudb a load, 

 then the eight-frame would give him 

 just as good service. 



Mr. Cavanagh — The question with 

 me is, if there were eight ten-frame 

 supers set out on the ground, or ten 

 eigiht-frame supers, which would I 

 rather carry in? I would carry in the 

 eight ten-frame supers, that is why I 

 want the ten-frame hive. 



Mr. Anderson — ^I have used eight 

 and the ten for about iforty-two years; 

 the past summer my ten-frame-hives 

 colonies did the majority of the work. 



