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You conclude, very properly and correctly, on page 8 of your 

 statement : 



As the pressures of population and development continue to impinge upon the 

 finite resources of the coastal zone, we must come to grips with the institutional 

 causes of this phenomena. This requires bold reform ; it also requires real dialog. 



You are just not going to resist the enormous pressures of this popu- 

 lation for these attractive sites. And as you conclude : "As the pres- 

 sures of population and development continue to impinge,'' to squeeze, 

 to compress and eventually to smother, that is exactly what is going to 

 happen in 30 years. You don't even need a computer or a sliderule ; you 

 can see that this is coming ; it is on its way. And I am not satisfied we 

 have any mechanism or objectives to cope with the situation. You say 

 we must come to grips with the institutional grips or causes of this 

 phenomena. 



It is moving by inches each year, just as certainly as we sit here. 

 This is coming upon us, and our question is : Hoav are you going to 

 meet the challenge? You say this requires bold reform; requires real 

 dialog, and that this bill provides the reform. I don't know where it 

 does, frankly. 



I think you state the objectives well. 



Secretary Hickel. I think it basically starts out with giving the 

 States the authority to present the plan to us for approval. And then 

 the next State, if it had a plan completely different or contradictory 

 than the State adjacent to it presented, we could say these plans are 

 not compatible. We are trying to start with compatible management 

 of the area. If you w^ant to strengthen the bill for more regulatory 

 authority, if this is attainable, I don't object, because I see the neces- 

 sity. I see the necessity completely of what has to happen ; but then 

 we have to start. 



It is like Apollo 1 to Apollo 12. I think we had some stages in there. 



Mr. Blatnik. I appreciate your statement and we shall, as you state 

 further, hold hearing-s and get more into the problem. How are you 

 going to resist this gtacier of human pressure that is coming upon us ? 

 You will have to have some way of just denying access of certain 

 numbers of citizens to the areas. 



Secretary Hickel. I think that is done somewhat by a land use 

 policy. I think that can be done. It is acceptable in the local area; it 

 should be acceptable on a national level. 



This bill cannot solve the population problem, but I think if we do 

 have a national land use policy, that better distribution or redistribu- 

 tion of population will really take care of some of the pressures we 

 have in America today, and even throughout the world. I think the 

 problem is how do we attract the population out of these concentrated 

 centers and not use compulsion to do it. And I think therein lies the 

 real direction that I think we have to go on this, which is the use of 

 (his national planning of both land and water. We are thinking 

 about it. 



Mr. Howard. Thank you. I know, Mr. Secretary, you do have to 

 leave in a very few minutes. I do want to vo<-oonizc the ranking Kcpub- 

 lican on the subcommittee, Mr. Ilarsha of Ohio. 



Mr. Harsha. I want to thank you for an excellent statement and 

 certainly for a very imaginative effort to deal witli this problem, and 

 I am particularly happy that you went into great lengths as to this, 



