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althoug-li there was some question raised about it. This is part of the 

 problem. Certainly if we are going to deal with the problem we ought 

 to deal with it in toto and not piecemeal. We have to be going into 

 this problem and I think due to your initiative in this we are now 

 coming to a point where we will deal with the problem and we ought 

 to deal with the whole package, rather than part of it. 



I notice in the bill it provides for certain open end authorization 

 for funding, on page 13 at the bottom of the page : 



As of fiscal year 1971 and such sums as may be necessary for the fiscal years 

 thereafter prior to June 30, 1975. 



Heretofore, the committee has been, at least rather hesitant about 

 authorizing open end authorization or writing that into the law. 



Should the committee continue the practice of using specific amounts 

 or specific sums to further this legislation, do you have any suggestion 

 as to what sums might be used for these years, rather than just the 

 open end authorization ? 



Secretary Hickel. Congressman, one of the real problems that we 

 have, when I said : ""V\^iat are we going to do with $2 million?" If we 

 don't have the experience of knowing what we really need. I think we 

 4ire saying that because we don't know. 



We tossed around the ideas so we said, "Let's leave it open ended 

 until we have a little experience ; until we see what we do need." 



I really don't know. I have a feeling we are using a very small fig- 

 gure, when you talk about the coastal areas, and I am apologetic for 

 it, because we don't loiow where to start. 



We welcome your suggestions and the open ended approach is for 

 the very reason that we don't have the answers. 



Mr. Harsha. You indicate how the coastal zoning planning would 

 be accomplished. 



Secretary Hickel. How would it be accomplished ? 



Mr. Harsha. Yes. 



Secretary Hickel. Basically, the State would come in, would present 

 a plan to us, and then a contiguous State would present a plan, too. 

 Those plans would have to be compatible and we would be the over- 

 seer ; and those plans would have to meet our criteria before they were 

 approved or given grants. And so we would be starting to have some 

 sort of continuity of planning or management of those contiguous 

 areas. 



Mr. Harsha. Well, do you have any criteria or suggested criteria 

 of what you think should be these plans ? 



Secretary Hickel. Starting on page 7, we identified the boundaries. 

 Do you have a copy of the bill, Congressman ? 



Mr. Harsha. Yes. 



Secretary PIickel. That gives a brief description of what we intend 

 to do to give some management to these areas, down to review of 

 performance. 



]Mr. Harsha. Wlio would actually carry out and enforce the land- 

 use zoning? 



Secretary Hickel. Actually, what would happen, once we approved 

 the plan is' the State would then have the obligation of implementing 

 the plan. jSIaybe that is not strong enougli, but it is a place to start. 

 And then the reason we use the State level, is the pressures for use of 

 those local areas aren't as great as in the city or county. 



