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Mr. Congressman, Boyd Gibbons, might want to amplify on that, 

 my Deputy Under Secretary. 



Mr. Howard. May we have your full name. 



STATEMENT OP BOYD GIBBONS, DEPUTT UNDER SECRETARY, DEPARTMENT 



OF TPIE INTERIOR 



Mr. Gibbons. Boyd Gibbons. Your specific question has to do with 

 how the practice of zoning would be carried out under this bill. 



The purpose here is to secure the powers within the State govern- 

 ments to at least have the authority to see that local zoning conforms 

 to a stat-ewide comprehensive plan. 



This doesn't necessarily mean that the State, in fact, is going to be 

 zoning every piece of private land within tlie coastal zone. This will 

 more than likely still be done by the local political subdivisions. 



However, this will be done by the political subdivisions in light of a 

 statewide plan that says what uses should be made of certain lands and 

 to the extent that the actual zoning by the local government entity 

 conforms with the plan, the zoning practice would be, in fact, carried 

 out by those local governments. But when the local governments begin 

 to zone, contrary to the statewide land use plan, then we are asking 

 that the States have authority then to see that the local zoning con- 

 forms to the statewide plan. And this vrill, of course, vary from State 

 to State. 



Mr. Harsha. As I understand it, the tool you have to force the State 

 to provide a plan that meets with your criteria, or will eventually re- 

 ceive your approval, is the withholding of grants ? 



Secretary Hickel. That is where you start. 



Mr. Gibbons. That is correct. But on the problem of zoning, you 

 are dealing with private land and the attempt of this bill is to buiid 

 on the existing political institutions and to transfer some of the author- 

 ity ; not all of it. 



Mr. Cramer. I understand the Secretaiy has to leave in a few min- 

 utes. I would like to take this opportvmity to make one or two observa- 

 tions and ask a question, if I may, Mr. Chairman. 



As I gather, this whole procedure — and I cosponsored it for the 

 purpose of putting before this Congress and the Nation needed empha- 

 sis on estuarine control and long-range programing and planning to 

 preserve this very vital resource of this Nation. That is the basic ob- 

 jective, is it not, when it comes to the detail as to exactly how it can be 

 carried out and consistent with the plan contained in volume 1. 



But I understand the basic thrust is to get the States into pro- 

 graming a long range or the preservation for estuarine areas and 

 proper use, whatever that proper use is, and to see that program 

 having been set up, is administered on a long-range basis to preserve 

 those areas. 



Let me give you an example. On page 1160, part 260 of volume 1, you 

 cite Tampa Bay and Pensacola Bay, and you are familiar with those? 



Secretary Hickel. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Cramer. As I understand it, the State could then say to Tampa 

 Bay area and the Pensacola area, as an example, that those communi- 

 ties surrounding it should get together and come up with a plan, 

 zoningwise, a long-range plan, under the jurisdiction and supervision 

 of the State, as part of their comprehensive plan for the statewide 



