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control of estiiarine areas and then you would have the jurisdiction 

 of approving that comprehensive plan as such. But the actual zonin^^ 

 would be done by the local communities under the basic guidance of 

 the State. The objective would be to keep Tampa Bay a live bay. It 

 is going to be a dead bay if this isn't done. 



Isn't that the basic thrust of it; so your local communities would 

 retain their basic zoning authority within the State-constituted, conj- 

 prehensive plan. That is the thrust of this? 



Secretary Hickel. Yes. And we see to it that the State plan would 

 also have some continuity with another contiguous State, if it was 

 overlapping, so we would see to it that they were going in the rigli<, 

 direction. That is the thrust of the bill. 



Mr. Cramer. Then one other question and I am finished. You sug- 

 gested the gulf coast area as one of the reasons, which seems to me to 

 have a lot of logic, because their problems are somewhat similar, the 

 fisheries, the shrimp and wildlife and such are somewhat similar. 



Now, it has been suggested by some that there would be established 

 regional laboratories, and what have you, for estuarine research and so 

 forth. 



Do you have authority at the present time to establish those ? Would 

 it be necessary to give consideration to adding that to this legislation, 

 or what ? 



I think maybe you presently have authority, but 



STATEMEXT OF RUSSELL TRAIX, UNDER SECRETARY, 

 DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR 



Mr. Train. We do have authority within the Department, within 

 our own programs. 



Mr. Howard. Could we have your full name. 



Mr. Train. Russell Train, Under Secretary of the Department of 

 the Interior. 



We do have authority within the Department. We do have certain 

 coastal laboratory facilities, as you know : the commercial fishery, the 

 Board of Fish and Wildlife; the Federal Water Pollution Adminis- 

 tration, among others. There is a need wliich I believe this committee 

 and other bodies recognize for a more comprehensive and better coor- 

 dinated approach to coastal laborator}^ needs involving not only the 

 Department of the Interior functions, but related functions of other 

 Federal agencies and probably universities and other institutions, and 

 this is a need the Department feels we should get at very shortly. 



Mr. Cramer. Thank you. 



Mr. Kluczynski. I want to thank the gentleman from Ohio for 

 yielding to me. 



To follow up on the comments of my good friend from Minnesota, 

 Mr. Blatnik, I liave been talking for some time, as have other member 

 of this committee, as to the need to plan and then actively go to woi'k 

 on providing for the distribution of our population over much greater 

 land areas. 



This committee's jurisdiction covers so many of the areas that efl'ort 

 would require. 



Would you be prepared, Mr. Secretary, to work with us toward that 

 goal? 



