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such plans or has evidence that such views were provided the State in 

 the development of the plans.'' 

 And here again is a rewording : 



*'In case of serious disagreement between any Federal agency and 

 the State in the development of the plan, the Secretary in cooperation 

 v,-ith the Executive Office of the President shall seek to mediate the 

 differences." 



The point of this alteration is that it seems to us that the original 

 wording had one of the interested parties, by nature of his legal 

 responsibilities, as the mediator, and the sole mediator, without a 

 provision for a higher level of interest and review, should the conflict 

 turn out to be that the Executive Office of the President, as represent- 

 ing all of the intei'ests involved, be concerned also with the mediation. 

 The third observation relates to the provisions of S. 2802 and S. 

 3460 that provide for the extension until June 30, 1975, of the Na- 

 tional Council on Marine Resources and Engineering Development. 



As you know, the President has asked his Advisory Council on Ex- 

 ecutive Organization to make a special study of the organization of 

 Federal environmental, natural resource, and oceanographic pro- 

 grams, and to report them in its recommendations, and has stated 

 that at the receipt of these recommendations and this report, he will 

 recommend reforms involving major reassignments of responsibilities 

 among departments. 



We note that the administration has separately submitted draft 

 legislation providing for th.e extension of the Council until June 30, 

 1071. The extension of life for another year will assure that it is avail- 

 able to assist in tlio coordination of marine science activities while the 

 current studies are being completed, and during the transition period 

 for any executive agency realinement that might result from those 

 studies. 



As a final point, it should be noted that administrative action has 

 already been taken to have the Chief of Engineei-s of the U.S. Army 

 represented in the activities of the Council as an observer. 



We feel that the pnncipal objective of that portion of S. 3802 and 

 S. 3460 has already been achieved. 



In closing, the Department of Defense is in general concurrence 

 with the goals and objectives set forth in all three bills, but for the 

 reasons I have mentioned, recommend enactment of S. 3183 as modified. 

 Thank you, Mr. Chainnan. 



Senator Inouye. Dr. Frosch, I thank you very much. 

 In your statement, you recommended that section 19(g)(1) be 

 amencled to provide that the Secretary of Interior not approve the 

 plan submitted l^y tlie State unless the Secretary of Defense was 

 brought into his deliberations. 



Dr. Frosch. And the other Federal agencies. 



Senator Inouye. Can you give us examples for the record of wliat 

 you consider as being matters of national security that may be in- 

 volved ? 



Dr. Frosch. "Well, I think there are certain matters of training, prep- 

 aration, and basing of military forces that need to be accommodated 

 as matters of national security. 



As an extreme case, if one were to ti-y to reserve all of the coastline 

 and ports of the United States for nonmilitary purposes, it would be 



