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^Ir. Miller. Yon stated that the President's Advisory Council on 

 Executive Organization is expected to make its report and recom- 

 mendations to the President on Federal organization. It has been post- 

 poned at least once, and we had understood from tlie President's 

 February environmental message that the report would be submitted 

 to the Ash Council on April 15. Do I understand correctly that the 

 report was not submitted to the President ? 



Dr. Frosch. I have been told so, but I do not know myself. 



jNIr. Miller. And that it is expected, perhaps, around May 1 ? 



Dr. Frosch. I simply do not know. 



Mr. Miller. With regard to the last recommendation, you laiow 

 that the Chief of Engineers has been designated as an observer on the 

 National Council of Marine Resources and Engineering Development. 

 Would he have any different status or ability to operate as an observer 

 than he would have if he were a full member of that Council? 



I am trying to understand iwhy you feel that the objectives of the 

 amendment have been achieved administratively. 



Dr. Frosch. Well, I think the key point is that he would be a direct 

 paiticipant and have a direct voice in the discussions of the Council. 



I presume that if the Council were to be a voting body on any par- 

 ticular issue, that observers do not vote. Generally it has acted as a 

 discussion and consensus body, and the issue of whether there would 

 be a distinction between obser^'ers and full members has not been 

 raised. 



After some consultation among all groups in the Department of 

 Defense, it has seemed to us best that the Department of Defense as a 

 single Depai-tment of Government be represented on the executive level 

 by a single voice, whoever that be appointed as, or as a single vote, if 

 voting is involved, witliout any attempt to block the Corps of Engi- 

 neers from participation. 



In fact, even without tlie appointment as an obser^-er, it has been our 

 practice to consult pretty thoroughly with the Corps of Engineers as a 

 major Department of Defense agency with an interest in these mat- 

 ters, and, in fact, it has generally been my practice when representing 

 tliis Department, and the Secretary of the Navy's practice, on his level, 

 to bring Avith him either the Cliief of the Corps or an appropriate 

 representative of the Corps so that those matters in the Corps' pur- 

 view could be dealt with directly by them. 



Do you want to add any comments, General ? 



General Koiscii. We go along with the recommendation that is 

 made. Not all matters bi-ought u}) in the Council come within the pur- 

 \'iew of the Chief. We would i-ather not comment on all matters, as we 

 would have to if we were a voting memlx^r. 



Also, as a part of the team that represents tlie Department of 

 Defense, we feel that we have been well heard, and we would rather 

 iron out within our own family the differences that ma}^ occur within 

 tlie Depantment of Defense itself. 



Mr. Miller. Dr. Frosch, you have made comments on the definition 

 of the outer limits of the coastal zone. I wonder if the Department of 

 Defense woidd like to comment on the landward extent of the coastal 

 zone. 



Dr. Frosch. Well, I would think the only thing I can think of off- 

 hand is that there are some statutory requirements, particularly again 



