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been brought about during the past 50 years such a policy must be 

 followed. 



So I think government, where it does get involved, is going to have 

 to help catch up with the pollution of the past, and then establish 

 guidelines with these new plants to be sure that we keep caught up. 



I think this is the kind of philosophy we are talking about. Con- 

 sequently, in our competitive society of industry, where industry used 

 to get "E" awards for putting a product on the shelf as cheaply as pos- 

 sible—that is, award the one that got it there the cheapest because that 

 was the best, is no longer acceptable. The real cost of a product should 

 take into account the cost of using public resources such as air and 

 water. So that is the direction the Government has to take, to make 

 environmental guidelines uniform. Throughout America we can live 

 by those same guidelines, so we can alleviate the problem that is 

 before us. That is the kincl of a thing we are trying to do. 



Senator Cook. Mr. Secretary, I appreciate your feeling that way. I 

 want to elaborate on what the chairman talked about in regard to 

 the coastal areas of the State of South Carolina. I am just as concerned 

 about other pa its of the country. We are now getting applications 

 from communities in my State for new water systems, because the 

 water they draw from their rivers or streams are no longer usable. 

 We are already having the Government called upon to help finance 

 new water systems, to help drill wells, and other things, because the 

 problem is now too large for the local governments. 



As the chairman remembers, vre talked about the whole problem of 

 coastal zoning, and the problem of the Federal Government assimti- 

 ing some type of zoning jurisdiction. Zoning is such a close per- 

 sonal matter to a county or a city that the local authorities do not want 

 to give it up. I really believe that this basic injunctive power may_ be 

 the solution we are looking for. Having a former Governor sitting 

 next to me, I know if he interfered in any of the counties along the 

 coast of South Carolina he would become very unpopular with his 

 constituents. 



By asking for this Federal injunctive authority, I think you are 

 ultimately going to save the taxpayers of this ISTaJtion many millions of 

 dollars, and they will be forever grateful. 



I must say that for many of the people throughout the United States 

 who had any misgivings about your ability and sincerity to be Secre- 

 tary of the Interior, all of those misgivings have been put to rest. I 

 think the people of this country are extremely proud of you. 



Thank you. 



Senator Hollings. INf r. Secretary, our distinguished friends weren't 

 in when we started with Senator Cotton. It is not any intent to juSt get 

 you into the South Carolina problem, but since we last met you have 

 been on TV ; I have tried to stay off of TV, because I knew how hot it 

 was. Since it has been made public, it is a test case, in a sense. It is 

 one of the first times at least the Department of Interior has stepped 

 in on an industry. 



You mentioned an Ohio case, and the Florida power case. But let's 

 suppose, to find out where I am at the moment, suppose I work for the 

 XYZ corporation and I am a chemical engineer and the boss calls and 

 says I am going to locate a plant in the southeast, along the coast, 

 Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, or Virginia. I want 

 you to go over there and see Secretary Hickel and get the guidelines. 



