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that is created, where the concern is from the land to the coastal zone 

 or the coastal zone to the land. 



Mr. Lennox. Doctor, are you familiar with the organization of the 

 coastal States, Pacific, Atlantic, Gulf, and, of course, the Great Lakes 

 area? 



Dr. ;^'L^.cDoN"ALD. Yes. 



Mr. Lennon. They have reached a consensus with respect to the 

 legislation pending before this committee and have stated that in their 

 judgment if coastal zone management is administered by any agency 

 of the Federal Government it ought to be NOAA. 



Now, who works closer with NO^^A. than the Coastal States Or- 

 ganization representing some 32 States ? 



'Wlio is in a better position than tliis Coastal States Organization, 

 organized from the level of the Governor, consisting of appointees 

 of the Coastal States Governors ? 



Now, we are dealing here, in the legislation that we are considering, 

 directly with the States. 



I cannot get away from this philosophy that after all, if you believe 

 in the so-called Union of Sovereign States which I have always un- 

 deretood and in the Republic that you have to deal with the States 

 and you have touched on it even though we had had testimony from 

 the mayor of Savannah, Ga., who is not inclined to go along with 

 that pliilosophy, and speaking for the Conference of Mayors, they 

 want this authority put where they think it ought to be, in the 

 municipalities, the counties. 



Do you have any comment. Doctor, and I assume you have, while 

 you have given us the other side of the stoiy and confine yourself 

 exclusively to legislation that was introduced at the request of the 

 adjninistration, I call your atention to the fact that legislation was 

 introduced on February 17 was introduced by the chairman of the 

 Committee on Literior and Insular Affairs. 



Pie makes it crj^stal clear he is introducing it, by request. 



Now, have there been hearings on this ? 



Dr. MacDonald. Yes, sir, hearings on the Senate side. 



Mr. Lennon. I am talking about in the House. How about the 

 House ? 



Dr. ^IacDonald. No ; there have not been hearings before the House. 



Could I come back to some of the comments you made earlier with 

 regard to the coastal zone States? 



Let me first make it absolutely clear that I hold the work of NOAA 

 in the highest admiration, particularly the services that are performed 

 in the coastal zones. 



As a scientific technological agency, they are without peer. 



You may recall that I chaired a committee of the President's Sci- 

 ence Advisory Committee in 1965 that produced a report on the ef- 

 fective use of the sea that made the recommendation that we should 



Crr'^+p nn institution RiTch aS NOAA. 



I wholly support it. 



Mr. Lennox. But at this point you do not agree with the Stratton 

 Commission? 



Dr. MacDonald. At this point we believe that what is involved in 

 land use is a question that is a very broad and deep issue that involves 

 science technology, but involves much more. 



