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system of management of the coastal zone, and getting one as soon as 

 possible. 



I think the difference is in what context is it done. 



Mr. Lennon. In addition to the recommendations of the Stratton 

 commission concerning the establishment of coastal zone management, 

 which we are trying to do, did not the Stratton commission recom- 

 mend specifically and definitively that the coastal zone management 

 should be inclucled in the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric 

 Agency ? 



Dr. White. That was the proposal, sir, the recommendation. 



Mr. Lennon. That was the recommendation of the Commission of 

 which you were a member. 



Any other questions, gentlemen ? 



Mr. Heyward. If the chairman w^ill forgive mo, Doctor, I will try 

 to get you off the horns of that dilemma. 



Mr. Lennon. Dr. White knows the affection and esteem and regard 

 I have for him. 



Mr. Heyward. Dr. White, I want to go back and I apologize that I 

 really did not raise this with Dr. MacDonald. 



He made a statement that, among other things, the Congress should 

 develop a unified approach on land use which will avoid the confusion 

 to State and local governments that two separate Federal programs 

 would undoubtedly create. 



I assume he meant by that that there would be a separate land use 

 program and a separate coastal zone program. 



May I ask you whether or not you conceive it possible that if this 

 committee goes forward with a coastal zone program, that it might 

 later be married to a total land use program if that legislation moved ? 



Dr. Wpiite. I think that Dr. MacDonald's point is well taken. 



I think that there is no question that the links between the coastal 

 zone and the rest of the land must be taken into consideration in any 

 management of land and water areas of this country. 



Now, the coastal zones are unique. 



You are asking a question : If you started first with the coastal zone 

 management system, would that preclude eventually marrying that 

 in some consistent way into a total land use policy so you have only 

 one system. 



I believe that if the Congress takes the proper action and the execu- 

 tive branch takes the proper action, that we can bring that about. 

 Separate programs are not a necessary consequence. 



Mr. Heyward. I would like to make one additional comment. In 

 this total land use concept, you are certainly not going to have the 

 one point of contact at the Federal level with all the States and all 

 the various programs that are being managed by the Federal 

 Government. 



The States are still going to have to deal with the Corps of Engi- 

 neers on their projects. They are going to have to deal with the De- 

 partment of Transportation in connection with airport development. 

 They will have to deal also with the Department of Transportation 

 m connection witli highways; with EPA in connection with facili- 

 ties for abating pollution ; with HUD in connection with housing and 

 urban renewal projects ; with Interior in connection with its national 



