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parks interest, and in connection with the Bureau of Outdoor Kecre- 

 ation. So, I do not think the argument that a different point of contact 

 is c:oing to be created is very legitimate. 



The Congress attempted to solve that in the Intergovernmental 

 Coordination Act of 1968, 



The proposed legislation before the subcommittee envisions that the 

 contacts between the States and the Federal Government will be in 

 accordance with the concepts and precepts of title IV of that act. 



I thought as a matter of the record we should make it crj'stal clear 

 that regardless of which department administers a coastal zone pro- 

 gram ; that is, the grants to assist the States in development, the two 

 departments which have an interest beyond the land area, including 

 the contiguous zone, the two departments that have the primary inter- 

 est, as I see it, are the Department of Commerce and the Department 

 of the Interior. 



Various other departments have interests in this coastal zone area, 

 so to object to making the first step on the grounds that you are cre- 

 ating another point of contact, it seems to me is a rather weak reed to 

 rest an objection on. 



Thank you. 



jNIr. Lennox. Doctor, one other question, if you will, please. 



Do you not believe that the esturarine sanctuaries and the marine 

 sanctuaries should be included in consideration of the legislation now 

 before this committee ? Are they not inseparable ? How can you sepa- 

 rate them? 



Dr. White. I would say, sir, that both the estuarine and marine 

 sanctuaries are in a logical place, if such a bill were to be passed. 



There are other logical places where such things could be considered 

 but, certainly, if you are going to manage the coastal zone areas, and 

 as you point out in H.R. 9229, the contiguous zone, then, clearly, an 

 essential part of that management should be provision of areas for 

 study and special use. 



Mr. Lennon. Doctor, if you would rather not answer this question, 

 I will strike it after you hear it, but do coastal zone management — and 

 you recommended that as a member of the Stratton Commission, and 

 of the panel thereto — if it comes into being, should it be in the Depart- 

 ment of the Interior or NOAA, or what department should it be in ? 



If you prefer not to answer, I will strike the question. 



Dr. White. Well, sir, it is quite clear that my organization has 

 extensive capabilities and interest in the coastal zone. 



However, we are, in the admanistration, taking the view, which I 

 think is the proper one, that in light of the fact that the coastal zones, 

 the management aspects, have to be part of the general use policy 

 aspects, the Department of the Interior also becomes a logical agency 

 in which to lodge this. 



The formation of NOAA, however, did bring into the Department 

 of Commerce many of the oceanographic and coastal capabilities 

 previously in the Department of the Interior. 



Mr. Lennon. The sea grant program that came into being is now 

 under NOAA and, through your office, the sea grant program being 

 under NOAA, you are funding a number of projects which certainly 

 are i]iextricably related to coastal zone management today. 



