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Secretary Loescit. ]Mr. Secretary, I am not a great espert on that 

 paiticular agency, but, of course, we all know that the purpose of it 

 was to give some cohesion to management of oceanographic matters. 



Mr. Lennox. "Well, are we talking about oceanographic matters 

 when we talk about seaward to the Continental Shelf ? 

 Secretar}^ Loesch. I think we probably are. 



]Mr. Lenxon. I wish you would explain it. 



Secretary Loesch. I do not think, Mr. Chairman, that you would 

 advocate for instance, that NOAA should determine by itself and 

 without in]:)ut from any other agency whether, when, or if we drill 

 for oil on the Outer Continental Shelf. I doubt if you would. 



Mr. Lennox. The bill does not so provide. 



Secretary Loesch. I understand that, but to meet marine sanctuary, 

 that portion of that bill — and let me make it very clear, Mr. Cliair- 

 man, that the Department of the Interior does not oppose tliat bill ; 

 it does oppase title III of that bill, concerning the marine sanctuaries 

 but not the rest of the bill. 



The reason, as I have said, for opposition to title III is simplv the 

 collision between our responsibilities for oil and gas matters on the 

 Outer Continental Shelf and the proposed authority for NOAA. 



Mr. Lennox. We would like very much, Mr. Secretary, if you would 

 put in writing and recapitulate your objections to title til of the 

 ocean dumping bill. You may have already done that, but I do not 

 recall having seen it and your basic objection to title III of the ocean 

 dumping bill is what? I am talking about the Department of the 

 Interior now ; not you as an individual. 



Secretary Loesch. Yes ; I understand. 



Mr. Lexxox. What are they ? 



Secretary Loescii. We would be very glad to furnish that, too, Mr. 

 Chairman. 



Mr. Lexxox. You could not at this point in time, inasmuch as, 

 hopefully, the matter will be considered this week, or certainly when 

 the Congress comes back in September; you could not state it now? 



Secretary Loesch. Mr. Chairman, I can have that for you at the 

 close of business today. 



Mr. Lennon. ;Mr. Mosher, I think j-ou just came in since the Secre- 

 tary testified. 



]Mr. MosHER. Mr. Chairman, since I did just come in, I will not take 

 any time at this point other than to say that personally I see our bill, 

 which I strongly support, for coastal zone management as an im- 

 mediate, practical, important step toward the larger goals of the 

 administration ; and I am interested, but a little surprised to hear Mr. 

 Loesch's optimism about the possibility of passage of the larger land 

 management concept in this Congress. 



I have felt that probably was not so. I think we are moving in the 

 right direction in the legislation we are considering here. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Lennon. Thank you Mr. Mosher. 



I recognize the gentleman from Connecticut, Mr. Steele. 



]VIr. Steele. My only comment is that I am eager to see the state- 

 ment that will be prepared by the end of business today. 



I am interested in your objections. I do not fully understand your 

 objections, and I think that paper will be very helpful. 



