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Commerce was asked to estimate the administrative costs on an annual 

 basis, and they broke it down into scientists, engineers, planners, pro- 

 gramers, and so forth. 



Mr. AspiNALL. My colleague is correct. But there is nothing in the 

 report to show that the Department of Commerce has taken any posi- 

 tion other than to answer the committee's question. 



Mr. Lennox. Yes. They have never raised a question that they were 

 going to have the administrative responsibility. If they did, they would 

 have responded and given us the figures. I think that is an indication. 

 It is just in recent weeks that the thought developed that this ought to 

 be transferred from NOAA to the Department of the Interior. Hope- 

 fully, they believe that the total land use management bill would 

 come out. 



Mr. AspiNALL. Let me ask my colleague one simple question. 



Why did you not have the Department of the Interior give you a 

 report and appear before the committee unless it has jurisdiction? 



ISIr. Lexnon. I think the distinguished gentleman knows that we al- 

 ways circularize all the potential and even slightly affected agencies 

 and ask them for their comments. Is that not true with your com- 

 mittee ? 



]Mr. AspixALL. The gentleman is absolutely correct. 



But the parent department having jurisdiction over this matter as 

 the bill is now written has not stated in the report its position on the 

 legislation. 



^Ir. Ltdnnon. The Department of Commerce has not ? 



Witnesses testified, sir. We do not have here the volumes of testi- 

 mony, but they testified — they did not write — they testified. 



Mr. AspiNALL. My colleague knows that we can read the report but 

 cannot read all the hearings. 



Mr. Lennon. I realize that. 



Mr. AspiNALL. This report is silent on this particular matter. 



Mr. Kyl. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield ? 



Mr. AspiNALL. I yield to the gentleman. 



Mr. Kyl. In answer to the question propounded by the subcommittee 

 chairman, a moment ago, in a couple of minutes I will have in his 

 hands an official letter from the Council on Environmental Quality 

 which reads: 



In response to your request. I am pleased to advise that the administration 

 and the Council on Environmental Quality strongly recommend that the coastal 

 zone program anticipated by H.R. 14146 be administered by the Department of 

 the Interior. 



]Mr. AspixALL. I thank the gentleman. 



The Chairman. The question is on the amendment offered by the 

 gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Kyl) . 



The question was taken; and on a division (demanded by Mr. 

 Lennon) there were — ayes 46, noes 24. 



TELLER VOTE WITH CLERKS 



]Mr. Lennon. Mr. Chairman, I demand tellers. 

 Tellers were ordered. 



]SIr. Lennox. Mr. Chairman. I demand tellers with clerks. 

 Tellers with clerks were ordered; and the Chairman appointed as 

 tellers Messrs. Kyl, Lennon, Mosher, and Aspinall. 



