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Mr. Gross. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike tlie next to the last word. 



Mr. Chairman, very little has been said this afternoon about the 

 financing provisions of this bill. As I understand, the bill authorizes 

 the expenditure of $172 million. 



I note that present on the floor is the distinguished gentleman from 

 Texas (Mr. Mahon) who has seen fit, on occasion, to warn the House 

 of authorizations that call for the expenditure of substantial amounts 

 of public money. This is another one, if I am correct, in that it au- 

 thorizes the expenditures of $172 million. 



I would like to ask the distinguished chairman of the subcommittee, 

 the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Lennon), if the provision 

 is still in the bill which would provide Federal guarantees of obliga- 

 tions issued by coastal States for land acquisition, water development, 

 and so forth ? 



Mr. Lexnox. No such provision is in the bill. 



I would appreciate the gentleman reading specifically what he is 

 referring to. 



Mr. Gross. Is the provision still in the 1)111 to authorize Federal 

 guarantees of obligations issued by coastal States for land acquisition, 

 water development, and so on and so forth ? Is that provision still in 

 the bill? 



Mr. Lennon". That is not in the bill. 



Mr. Gross. That has been removed ? 



Mr. Lennon. That has been removed. 



Mr. Gross. Therefore, the bill would not result in Federal guarantees 

 of tax-exempt obligations ? 



Mr. Lennon. I think the answer I gave to your first question should 

 assure you on the second question. The answer is again "No." 



Mr. Gross. The answer is "No ?" 



Mr. Lennon. That is right. 



Mr. Gross. I might ask the gentleman where it is proposed to get 

 the $172 million for the financing of this latest antipollution bill ? 



Mr. Lennon. I can ask the gentleman where the Nation expects to 

 get the money to finance the national land-use management program 

 that the gentleman so exuberantly supported the philosophy of. 



Mr. Gross. I am not acquainted with the national land-use bill and 

 therefore I do not know whether I would support it. 



This bill also provides for the creation of another advisory com- 

 mittee. They are coming at about the rate of one a day although we 

 have already some 3,000 advisory boards, commissions, councils, and 

 committees. 



Must this bill be accompanied with still another advisory committee ? 



Mr. Lennon. This bill relates to an advisory committee. 



And also the provisions that you had yesterday advising the com- 

 mittee every time you create any spectrum of a medical faculty practice 

 society agreeing to a special advisory committee. 



But in this iuFtance I do not agree with you that we should not 

 bring into being the top expertise in this area to advise the Secretary 

 of the Interior — not that the Under Secretary of the Interior under a 

 no vote — rather than t]ie Secretary of Commerce. 



I cannot agree with that at all. 



