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But the SpTintor from ArkmisaB is sayinpr nothino: diiferent from 

 the Senator from Ahiska. Their objectives are the same. He is just 

 saying, "Let us apply the same standards across the board." 



I think that is a reasonable request. 



Mr. Stevens. With the exception, I would say to my friend from 

 Tennessee, that in the coastal zone, if we are going to have nuclear 

 plants, and I do not know of any nuclear plant or major power 

 facility that is not within a shoreline, now there are some inland 



]Mr. Brock. There are some in Tennessee. 



Mr. Stev-ens. And involve substantial use of that, Tak-e a look 

 at Florida and the one I told about in Scotland, all of them are im- 

 pacting the oceans, and we are putting the burden on those people 

 in the coastal zone that we have not placed on the people in the interior. 



We have tried in the Senate, but the House apparently will not 

 agree in terms of land-use planning. 



Mr. HoLLiNGS. Will the Senator yield? 



Mr. Stevens. Yes. 



Mr. HoLLiNOS. How could my distinguished friend from Tennes- 

 see deal with them equally if, No. 1, they have not submitted to an 

 overall plan as have the coastal regions and around the Great Lakes 

 region? How can they be treated equally when they will not submit 

 to a national land use plan? 



Mr. Beock. I think the point was made earlier, and made very 

 well by the Senator froni Arkansas, and perhaps some others, that 

 the way this bill is now drawn, we get something more than protec- 

 tion of the sea, which we all, I think, favor. 



If we are dealing only with offshore, we get that protection, but 

 when we include energy developments onshore, nothing to do with 

 offshore, then we are into something else. We almost have an induce- 

 ment or incentive to develop facilities in the coastal plain or zone. 



Mr. HoLLTNGS. The economics of that, of course, malce that abso- 

 lutely prohibitive prohibitive. But mainly, all these power plans 

 are not going to locate in a particular place for the reason stated. 

 The fact is that the basic law does take care of more than offshore 

 impact. It takes care of those impacts particularly by way of popula- 

 tion, and urbanization. 



I was just reading from the basic law of the Coastal Zone Manage- 

 ment Act, and I have got the rules and regiilations which apply to the 

 particular area. Earlier I was reading all those things which Con- 

 gress found. 



I do not know whether the Senator was on the floor. 



Mr. Brock. I was in the Chair. 



Mr. HoLLTNGS. The population expansion, industry, commerce, eco- 

 nomics, that is the basic law in that area. 



They were all fighting, whether to put an industry, or a power 

 plant, or a recreation facility, or put in fishing, or all of these water- 

 consuming industries, or otherwise, port facilities. They say, "How 

 can we get orderly planning in the area where everything is jammed 

 in?" And they said that if the States or those areas will submit to an 

 overall plan, namely a coastal zone management plan approved by 

 the Federal Government, we will, first, assist in that planning finan- 

 cially, and, second, help defray the costs of their management 

 programs. 



Mr. Bellmox. Will the Senator yield? 



