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tlie costs are for the current year or what they will be over the long- 

 run. He may have a comment he wishes to make about the authoriza- 

 tion or about the appropriations. There seems to be a possibility that 

 the cost of this bill now will be less, due to the action of the Committer 

 on Interior and Insular Affairs this mornino;. We are not quite sure yet 

 on the Budget Committee just what has happened. Maybe the chairman 

 can explain. 



Mr. MusKiE. I am glad to. I know that the distinguished Senator is 

 opposed to the bill on its merits. I am for it on its merits. But budget 

 implications, nevertheless, are a separate consideration in which the 

 Senator and I are in agreement — that is, that we have to stay under the 

 budget resolution. 



With respect to the cost of S. 586, according to our figures, it will 

 cost nearly $2 billion over the nest 10 years. The Committee on the' 

 Budget has made no judgment about 10-year costs. This first year,, 

 we have concerned ourselves with first-year costs, which is 1976. These 

 are the numbers as we see them. 



Now, with respect to budget authority, in drafting the budget ceiling 

 we assumed a total of $300 million as the budget authority for fiscal 

 1976 for the programs this bill would create. 



Now, this calls for nearly $400 million in budget authority. I under- 

 stand from the manager of the bill that they borrowed budget author- 

 ity, in effect, from the Interior Committee in connection with programs 

 that it had included in its recommendation to the Budget Committee 

 in March. 



Mr. HoLLixGS. Mr. President, if the Senator will yield, that is ac- 

 curate. 'Wliat we have done is we have taken the $200 million that 

 would appear in the Interior bill on the Outer Continental Shelf and, 

 by agreement, we have now included it in our bill, so we are under the 

 budget figure, and we also notified the Budget Committee with the 

 expectation this would be budgeted at about a one-third level in out- 

 lays. So we are well within the budget. 



Mr. MusKiE. On the outlay figure the Senator is correct as we read 

 it. We have no difficulty with the figure on budget grounds in that 

 sense. 



With respect to the budget authority question I assure the Senator 

 from Oklahoma I would take the figures of our own budget people on 

 the staff if we reach for any reason a different conclusion, and we will 

 check it with the distinguished Senators from South Carolina and 

 Washington, and we will notify the Budget Committee and we will 

 report the bill with our own finding, but at the moment there appear to 

 be no budget problems, with the one qualification which we checked 

 out. 



Mr. Bellmon. Mr. President, will the Senator yield ? 



Mr. HoLLiNGS. I yield. 



Mr. Bellmon. The $150 million applies to fiscal year 1976 ; is that 

 true? 



Mr. HoLLixGS. That is right. 



Mr. Bellmon. That is anticipated for 1976. What about future 

 years ? 



Mr. PIoLLiNGS. The anticipated outlay is $3 million amiually for the 

 next 3 years. Each time, of course, it is subject to the appropriation 

 process. 



