

66 THIRD ANNUAL REPORT 



I don't know of but three places where they had it that they 

 have it to-day. What would you do if you had ii,ooo cases 

 of some very contagious disease? 



Mr. Abbott — I want the real gist of it. You may have 

 cured ii,ooo cases, but if the ii,ooo cases are cured, are there 

 22,000 cases left? Here's the point: A noted stutter doctor 

 had a great many patients coming to him, and he had a 

 world-wide reputation, and people were all hunting him up. 

 There was a man going along the street who wanted to be 

 treated. He met a man and asked him about this doctor. 

 He said, "Well, I — I — have known him; he — he — he — 

 c — c — cured m — me." Now, then, that's the question. Have 

 you done it that way, or is it being wiped out of these places? 

 I am inclined to think that it is being wiped out. Can you 

 wipe it out? 



Mr. France — We will never wipe it out until all the 

 States have the law. Illinois has imported it. Over four 

 or five times I stopped it coming into my State. To-day I 

 know of it in only five counties, and when I started it 

 was in 50. 



Mr. Wheeler — That's Mr. France. Now, the question is, 

 if after Mr. France goes into an apiary and treats it, is that 

 apiary forever cured of it, or apparently for one year or a 

 little time? He may lay it to some other State, or someone 

 else in the neighborhood, but I have my doubts about it, and 

 I would like to know. Stick to the same question that I put 

 first. Are there people here who, after six or seven years, 

 have had foul brood permanently cured by Mr. France or any 

 other State inspector? 



Mr. Horstmann — I have cured foul brood. I know that 

 they can do it as well as I can, and people are bound to be 

 benefited. I had foul brood just about as bad in my apiary 

 as I ever heard of, or knew of, and I don't believe there was 

 a bit last year, and I had any amount of it year before last. 

 We want a foul brood law in this State so that the inspector 

 will have a right to go in and examine bees and treat them. 

 I woyld never hunt up an inspector to come and treat my 

 bees. I would dig right in and treat them myself. The peo- 

 ple who will not treat their bees are the ones we want to 

 get after, and if there was a foul brood law we could force 

 them to clean up. I am rid of foul brood now, but there 

 isn't any telling how long I will be. The bees may get foul 

 brood from some other apiary. I cleaned out an apiary to 

 get it out of the neighborhood. Will it return? I may have 

 had a cold last year and have another this year. It is not 

 the same cold. You may cure your foul brood this year and 

 it will be new next year. That's the way I look at it. 



Mr. Wheeler — I call the gentleman to order. We are not 

 talking about colds nor about smallpox. We are talking 

 about foul brood. 



Mr. Horstmann — We must give illustrations to make 

 people understand what we say. 



Dr. Miller — Without using any illustration, let me say 

 to you how I would feel supposing I knew of a case of foul 



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