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Mr. Abbott — They didn't have any good points is the 

 reason I quit using them. 



Dr. Miller — They are fixed distances, and they are 

 warmer; but I wouldn't have them. 



Mr. Wheeler — I wouldn't have anything else. That's just 

 the diflference. 



Mr. Wilcox — You ought to know the good points. 



Mr. Wheeler — When you want to shake bees out, stick 

 the end of your hive against the ground and you don't knock 

 your frames all out of true. 



Dr. Miller — You are not talking about the closed-end. It 

 may be closed-end and hanging too. 



Mr. Wheeler — I am talking about the closed-end and 

 hanging. 



Mr. Muth — I suppose that is another one of the articles 

 that was made for the wings of some of the people. Every 

 man I sold those closed-end hives to has thrown them away. 

 They don't like them. Too much paraphernalia connected 

 with them. I tried them a couple of years and don't want 

 them. 



Mr. Wheeler — I am glad of it. I can produce honey and 

 beat the other fellows because I have shorter cuts. We can 

 produce honey cheaper with that hive than with any other. 



REVERSIBLE FRAMES. 



"What is to be gained by the use of reversible frames?" 



Pres. York — How many use reversible frames, or have 

 used them? [Seven.] 



Mr. Baldridge — I have used them but don't use them now. 



Mr. Wilcox — I have now perhaps several thousand of 

 them in use. They are made of the pattern described by Mr. 

 Heddon. They are reversible. I can't say that I would advise 

 everybody to start with them, because it costs a little more 

 to start with. If a comb breaks loose, or in handling falls to 

 the bottom-bar, you can reverse it, and it will sit on its bot- 

 tom again and the bees will build the spaces full. That's one 

 of the advantages. Sometimes they do break that way. An- 

 other advantage, that wedge-shaped piece on each end ex- 

 tending below the center some two inches leaves the space 

 between the end of the frame and the end of the hive tapering 

 narrow at the top and wider at the bottom, and I find it as 

 Mr. Heddon said, that the bees would never build brace- 

 combs behind the lower end of the brood-frame while the 

 top may come as close as a quarter of an inch. I think that 

 is a little advantage in moving out on the hive. That is only, 

 however, peculiar to the one form of reversible frame and 

 not to the principle. 



Mr. Wheeler — Do you mean to say that that is the Hed- 

 don reversible hive? 



Mr. Wilcox — Heddon reversible frame; hanging Lang- 

 stroth. Heddon was the inventor. 



WHITENING COLORED HONEY-VINEGAR. 



"How can you make colored honey-vinegar white?" 

 Mr. Muth — The only thing to make white honey-vinegar 

 is to use white honey from the beginning. 



