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JAMDABX 28. 1909. 



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The Weekly Florists^ Review^ 



93 



Return Steam Trap 



and its APPLICATION 



Our Silent Salesmen — Ask the Users 



Henry Bacbman, Minneapolis, Minn. 

 Joy Floral Co., Nashville, Tenn. 

 J. W. Davis & Co., Davenport, la. 

 Wm. McDonald, Mooslc, Pa. 

 W. E. Crane & Co., E. Toledo, Ohio. 

 Matt UUenbruch, Port Huron, Mich. 

 S. C. Wollett, Grand Rapids, Mich. 

 Chas. Unglaub, Sprlnefleld, Ohio. 

 C. 0. Wine, Grand Rapids, Mich. 

 Jos. Helnl & Son, Jacksonville, 111. 

 J. W. McKay, Post Falls, Idaho. 

 J. W. Prlmnjer, lola, Kans. 

 Klmura Bros., Melrose, Cal. 

 W. B. Davis & Co., Aurora, 111. 

 Geo. Blschoff, Ann Arbor, Mich. 

 Phoenix Nursery Co., Bloomlngton, III. 

 Jones & Green Floral Co.. Dlghton, Mich. 

 Finn & Son, Carthage, Mo. 

 Longfellow & Williams, Muncle, Ind. 

 Domoto Bros., Melrose, Cal. 

 S. A. Baker. Rutland. Vt. 

 John Becker, Rosehlll, III. 

 E. G. Relmers, Louisville, Ky. 

 Louis Nelson, Redwood City, Cal. 

 Peter Relnberg, Chicago, 111. 

 Wauseon Floral Co.. Wauseon, Ohio. 

 William Currier, Elkhart, Ind. 

 H. Gaethje, Rock Island, 111. 

 Hugo Gross. Klrkwood, Mo. 

 James A. Fraser, Prescott, Ont. 

 Frank McMahon. Sea Bright, N. J. 

 William M. Turner. Wllklnsburg, Pa. 

 Sunderbruch & Meier, Cincinnati, Ohio. 

 Nelson & Klopfer, Peoria, 111. 

 E. Nagel & Son. Minneapolis, Minn. 

 William Clark. Colorado Springs, Colo. 

 J. L. Dillon, Bloomsburg, Pa. 

 Henry Cornelius. Minneapolis, Minn. 

 Ira G. Marvin, Kingston, Pa. 

 C. C. Pollworth Co., Milwaukee, Wis. 

 Arthur T. One, Melrose, Cal. 

 Elmhurst Floral Co., Melrose. Cal. 

 Woner'? Greenhouse, Port Clinton, Ohio. 

 Leedle Floral Co., Springfield, Ohio. 

 W. C. Lovejoy, Hillsdale, Mich. 

 Minge Floral Co., Mobile. Ala. 

 Sherman Nursery Co., Charles City, la. 

 Rhode Island Greenhouses, Pawtucket, 

 R. I. 



W. W. Seeklns, Duluth, Minn. 



Wagoner Floral Co., Columbia City, Ind. 



S. J. G'oddard, Framlngham, Mass. 



J. Williams Heal, Boston, Mass. 



Welland & Rlsch, Evanston, 111. 



Lake Shore Greenhouses, Albert Lea, 

 Minn. 



Rlchey Floral Co., Albla, la. 



Frank Stellow, NUes Center, 111. 



Wm. T. Walke, Salem, Mass. 



J. Dlckerson, Woodstock, Ont. 



Wm. G. Miller, Peru, Ind. 



James Brown, CoatesvlUe, Pa. 



J. W. Lyon & Co., Belvidere, 111. 



Arlln & Arlln, Clyde, Ohio. 



W. T. Buckley Co., Springfield, 111. 



Carlson & Sandberg, Minneapolis, Minn. 



D. P. Smith, Flint, Mich. 



Stelner & Davis, Morrison, III. 



Woodworth & Parker, Geneva, Ohio. 



Albert Lies, Nlles Center, 111. 



East Side Floral Co., Minneapolis, Minn. 



J. J. Bolton, Beaver Falls, Pa. 



C. B. Flick Floral Co., Fort Wayne, Ind. 



Arthur Thornhlll, Rosedale, Kan. 



John Stamm, Hutchinson, Kan. 



W. A. Lovett, Newark, Ohio. 



F. Dorner & Sons, Lafayette, Ind. 



Heller Bros., New Castle, Ind. 



Muncle Floral Co., Muncle, Ind. 



N. T. Barrett. Hutchinson. Kan. 



John Bader, Allegheny, Pa. 



Whittaker Bros., Cornwall, Ont. 



Dale Estate, Brampton, Ont. 



Wm. Sylvester, Cummings Bridge, Ont. 



Gude Bros. Co., Washington, D. C. 



McRae-Jenklnson Co., Cheswick, Pa. 



Enomoto Bros., Redwood City, Cal. 



J. C. Schmidt. Bristol. Pa. 



L. E. Hltz, Marlon, Ind. 



John Eitle, Greencastle, Ind. 



Herman Bros.. Council Bluffs, la. 



Wm. Hay, Oaklawn, B. I. 



LaCrosse Floral Co., LaCrosse, Wis. 



J. A. Blsslnger, Lansing, Mich. 



Holton & Hunkel Greenhouse, Milwau- 

 kee, Wis. 



J. F. Kidwell & Bro., Chicago, 111. 



Fred Gowen, Peabody, Kans. 



Henry E. Relmers, Spokane, Wash. 



D. F. Hutchinson & Son, Lexington, 



Mass. 

 L. H. Robinson, Leamington, Ont. 

 Wm. S. Clark, Washington, D. C. 

 Serveau Bros., San Francisco, Cal. 

 J. B. Murdoch & Co., Plttsbnrg, Pa. 



Morehead Mf^. Co., 



1043 

 Grand Ave., 



Detroit, Mich. 



Mention Tue Review when tou write 



4-inch pipe carried under the ridge in 

 each direction. If I were to use steam, 

 I should determine the location of a 

 central heating plant for the entire 

 range to be heated from it. I should 

 then carry a riser from the boiler plant 

 to the one house to be built, and run 

 one 3-inch riser under the ridge to sup- 

 ply heat to fourteen 1^4 -inch returns, 

 arranged in manifolds along the side 

 walls and upon the purlin supports. 



Li. C. C. 



CONNECTING EXPANSION TANKS. 



In the Keview of January 14, A. B. E. 

 asks why it is usually recommended to 

 connect the expansion tank to the main 

 return pipe near the boiler, rather than 

 to the main flow at the high point. The 

 reason given is that when connected to 

 the top pipe, the hottest water is driven 

 into the tank in place of being forced 

 through the system. 



Now, according to our experience, no 

 greater fallacy can be set up than this. 

 That some hot water may get into the 

 expansion where the connection is made 

 in the flow pipe, we admit, but that it 

 interferes with the circulation in the 



least is a mistaken idea. The great ad- 

 vantage in top connection over bottom 

 connection is the fact of its acting 

 as an escape for any steam that may 

 form during hard firing, and if connec- 

 tion in this way is made with i^-inch or 

 %-inch pipe, no influence whatever will 

 be noticed in the circulation, except per- 

 haps to promote it. 



The writer well remembers some years 

 ago coming into possession of a small 

 range of glass heated by hot water from 

 one boiler, put in by the leading city 

 steam fitter. The expansion tank was 

 well elevated and connected to the main 

 return near the boiler, the main flow 

 pipe being provided with the regulation 

 air cock at the high point. The result 

 was that unless this air cock was opened 

 at short intervals during heavy firing, 

 steam would gather at that point and 

 back the water out through the ex- 

 pansion tank, so that when the fire went 

 below this point there would not be 

 sufScient water in the system to com- 

 plete circulation. A remedy was sought, 

 and to that end the connection of the 

 tank was changed from the return to 

 the flow pipe, with the result that no 



better heating system could be desired. 

 No matter how hard we fired, the circu- 

 lation was smooth and perfect, and we 

 feel safe in saying that there are men 

 today who are having trouble with their 

 heating plant through no other cause 

 than this same theory of connecting the 

 expansion tank to the return pipe near 

 the bottom of the boiler. Those who 

 practice this theory have everything to 

 lose and nothing to gain. 



B. G. MiLFORD. 



FLOW PIPES TOO LARGE. 



We intend to build a house 30x135 

 feet, here in central Indiana. We wish 

 to have two 3-inch flows, one running 

 under each gutter, using twelve 2-inch 

 returns, six for each flow. Will this 

 maintain a temperature of 45 degrees, 

 with an outside temperature of 10 de- 

 grees below zero! We will use hot water 

 heat. 



We have two houses heated with over- 

 head flows which are twelve feet above 

 the boiler at the highest point. In the 

 proposed house the flows will only be five 

 feet above the boiler at the highest 

 point. Will you kindly tell us if this 



