1 The idea was that the discussion that would occur this morning 



2 then would provide elements for discussion by the two panels, who would 



3 then come back together and come up with their conclusions. Certainly, 



4 there is no reason that you have to do it that way. 



5 MR. LANE: Also, to give you a chance to further define them or 



6 restate them if you found them unacceptable or what-have-you, so that 



7 everybody was using the same hypothesis in the afternoon discussions. 



8 DR. AURAND: Bob, I'm getting an itchy finger for either a magic 



9 marker or chalk. Is there a blackboard? If we are going to do this, if 



10 we are going to try to do summaries as a group, I think we have to have 



11 someplace where you can write things down, a flip-chart or anything like 



12 that, light view graphs and pens, anything? 



13 DR. TEAL: Don, it seems to me that you've got this organized 



14 this wrong way around, that what you are calling the panel discussions, 



15 which seems to me to be an effort to define the premises on which you 



16 are going to discuss these two hypotheses or some other hypotheses ought 



17 to come first. 



18 Really, if you can agree--and it seems to me that there are a 



19 number of things that are easy to agree on. For example, on currents, 



20 there is a lot of resuspension and strong currents in canyons in 



21 relation to the areas around them. There are special environments in 



22 canyons that are not found in the rest of the area, all that pueblo 



23 structure and boulder fields and so forth, 



24 Those areas are refuges, at least in the sense that they are not 



25 trawled over; that there is scavenging by the fines in the canyons, at 



26 least the edges of them, an accumulation for potential --perhaps that is 



27 all you can say at that level, a potential --accumulation of pollutants 



28 that are introduced by any kind of activity in that general area of the 



29 oceans in the canyons as a result of that scavenging. 



30 There are a number of things like that and if you can say those 



31 things and define them a little bit, I mean, how important are the 



32 canyons as nursery areas? We heard that they are nursery areas and that 



33 seems unequivocal, but how important are they as nursery areas in 



34 relation to what goes on along the whole surface of the bank or the 



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